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Click to view PeggyFair's profile New Member 46 posts since
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Jul 18, 2007 8:38 AM

Buying a new computer

Hi all,

I am going to be replacing my 7 year old Gateway system. It's been good to me and still works it's just slow and I need a faster system. I will be buying both a laptop and a desktop and I will be using these new systems to surf the web, email, downloading and storing music(no more than 800 songs at any given time) and I also want to get into a little web design and graphic design for my own personal venture. I want to get another Gateway since they have been reliable for me. I spoke to the Gateway rep and here is what he suggested, please tell me if the memory, hard drive, processor, etc..is enough. Thanks!:

Laptop:

Gateway NX860S
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Intel Pentium Dual-Core Mobile Processor T2060 (1.60GHz, 533MHz FSB, 1MB L2 Cache)

Operating System

Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005 (Update Rollup 2)

Memory

1024MB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules)

Hard Drive

60GB 5400rpm Serial ATA hard drive

Display

17.0" WXGA TFT Active Matrix (1440 x 900 max. resolution)

Optical Drive

24x/10x/24x CD-RW / 8x DVD Combo Drive

Wireless Network

Integrated Intel 3945 802.11a/b/g wireless networking

Mobile Technology

Features Intel Centrino Duo Mobile Technology

Accidental Damage Plan

Three years accidental damage plan

Adapter

65 Watt AC Adapter

Application Software

Microsoft Works 8.5

Backup Media

Cyberlink CDRW and PowerDVD Solution (2-Channel) (for Windows XP)

Battery

Primary 8-Cell Lithium Ion Battery w/ 1 Yr. limited battery warranty

Chassis

Chassis w/ Integrated Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 950 & Intel 943GML Chipset

Expansion Slots

One type II PC card slot

External Ports

(4) USB 2.0, VGA, IEEE 1394 (FireWire), S-Video (TV-Out)

Internet Service Provider

90-day America Online Internet access

Keyboard and Mouse

Full-size keyboard w/ integrated 10-key pad and EZ Pad Pointing Device

Media Card Reader

6-in-1 media card reader (MemoryStick, MemoryStick Pro, MultiMedia Card, Secure Digital, Mini Secure Digital, RS-MultiMedia Card)

Modem

Integrated V.92 56K modem

Network

Integrated Intel 10/100/1000 Ethernet Adapter

Operating System Backup Media

Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Backup Media

Security Software

McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service (for Windows XP)

Software Documentation

End User License Agreement for Non-Microsoft Software

Standard Software

Adobe Acrobat Reader 7.0 and Google Toolbar

Warranty

3 Year Value Plan (Tech Support - Parts - Factory Labor)

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Gateway S-5105D
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Genuine Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition

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Intel Pentium D Processor 925 featuring two processing cores (3.00GHz, 800MHz FSB, 2x2MB cache, non-HT EM64T)

Application Software

Microsoft Works 8.5

Backup Media

Cyberlink CDRW and PowerDVD Solution (2-Channel) (for Windows XP)

Certification

Energy Star Compliant

Chassis

6-bay mid-tower case w/ front audio ports

Chipset

ATI Xpress 200 Chipset

Controller

IEEE 1394 (FireWire) PCI Card (full height) (1 in front and 2 in back)

Controller Card

Integrated ultra ATA100 controller

Expansion Slots

2 PCI Slots, 1 PCI-Express x1, 1 PCI-Express x16

External Ports

(6) USB 2.0 ports (2 front, 4 rear), (1) Serial, (1) Parallel, (2) PS/2, (1) RJ-45 integrated LAN, (1) VGA, (1) audio in/out, (1) microphone, front headphone ports

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Hard Drive

160GB 7200rpm Ultra ATA hard drive w/ 2MB cache

Keyboard

Gateway Basic 104+ Keyboard (PS/2)

Management Software

Gateway System Manager Client V.3.2 DWL

Media Card Reader

9-in-1 Memory Card Reader

Memory

1024MB 533MHz Dual-channel DDR2 SDRAM (2-512MB modules) http://$40.00

Monitor

Gateway 22" Widescreen High-Definition LCD Display

Monitor Speakerbar

USB Speakerbar for 22" or smaller Gateway LCD Monitors

Motherboard

ATI Xpress 200 Motherboard w/ 10/100 LAN

Mouse

Gateway 2-Button USB Optical Wheel Mouse with Mouse Pad

Operating System Backup Media

Microsoft Windows XP Home Back-up Media (CD version)

Optical Drive

48x/32x/48x CD-RW/DVD combo drive

Security Software

McAfee 90-day Internet Security Suite Complimentary Subscription with VirusScan, Personal Firewall Plus, SpamKiller & Privacy Service (for Windows XP)

Software Documentation

End User License Agreement for Non-Microsoft Software

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Video

Integrated ATI Radeon Xpress 200 Graphics with up to 128MB shared memory

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ATI x1300 Ultra Video Card with 128MB Dual DVI & TV-Out

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Desktop Value Plus Service Plan -- 3 year part/labor/NBD on-site/3 year technical support

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Click to view spike's profile Member 1,235 posts since
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1. Jul 18, 2007 9:02 AM in response to: PeggyFair
The graphics, are weak on both units, they need to be *DX10 * and VISTA compatable, .......tell them that, .....also both units have pentium D chips in them, you do NOT want those, while they do OK, they are old tech, and produce hugh amounts of heat and consume energy like starving pigs, really bad in a notebook, .......tell them you want CORE 2 DUO , CPU's , .......last thing you will probably want 2 GB of RAM, as Vista is a hugh memory hog.
I am recomending all this based on your , most likely , wanting to hold on to them for several years and will likely sometime in the future move to Vista.
Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 4,314 posts since
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3. Jul 18, 2007 10:44 AM in response to: PeggyFair
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Peggyfair, as I was going through the list, I was thinking, she can do better than this. I have been prowling the HP website, as I have been getting ready to buy a new laptop.

I would recommned you log onto HP.com, and look at three areas. First, review the laptops available in the entertainment section. In the 17" check out the dv9500t, and when you get it up on the screen, click on the customize. Then you can add any times you want. The dv9500t with the Core2Duo T7100, Vista Home Premium, 1680x1050 Brightview screen, 2GB memory, nVidia 8600M discrete video card with 511MB memory, wireless AGN, 2 120GB Hard Drives, High Capity 8 cell battery& a set of recovery discs will run a little over $1500.

You can also prowl the desktop lines and see how they compare. The third area i think you should prowl is the driver and download section. On the opening screen on the lower left are support&troubleshooting and driver&download buttons. Just check out support section.

I do not have anything against Gateway, in trying to help others on this forum, I have found their support site is not as complete as HP, Dell, Sony and some others.

I'm not sure why you are leaning toward XP Media Center 2005. I had it on my HP Media Center PC and was glad to get rid of it. I found it quirky and not quite Vista, but not quite XP either. The menu visuals are closer to Vista than the traditional XP. Some of my problems may have been trying to stick with Norton's Internet Security 2007, when I should have deep sixed it earlier. I did when I installed Vista Home Premium. While you can buy various books on XP Home and Pro, and of course Vista, I have yet to see a book on XP Media Center. It seems to be the red-headed stepchild of Windows opertating systems. Kind of a patch to XP until Vista Home Premium was ready for release.

With new machines at this time, the only reason not to go with Vista, is if you have Legacy progams or periphials that will not work with Vista. Older scanners and All-In-One printers are about the only devices that do not have Vista drivers now.

As always its your money, but shop around and get the most you can for that, be it Gateway, HP or some other brand. Up until recently I probably would not have been in a postition to think too highly of Dell, but there have been several incidents lately when a Dell Tech has joined in on the forum discussion to help a Dell Owner. When that happens most of us just kind of fade back and let the tech handle it, but keep an eye on the process. That shows a commitment to satisfaction that has not been their reputation in the past.


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Click to view spike's profile Member 1,235 posts since
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5. Jul 18, 2007 10:59 AM in response to: PeggyFair
PeggyFair wrote:> spike wrote:The graphics, are weak on both units, they need to be *DX10 * and VISTA compatable, .......tell them that, .....also both units have pentium D chips in them, you do NOT want those, while they do OK, they are old tech, and produce hugh amounts of heat and consume energy like starving pigs, really bad in a notebook, .......tell them you want CORE 2 DUO , CPU's , .......last thing you will probably want 2 GB of RAM, as Vista is a hugh memory hog.

I am recomending all this based on your , most likely , wanting to hold on to them for several years and will likely sometime in the future move to Vista.


Thanks Spike. I will call him back and tell him this. I knew something was up because I expected to pay alot more for what I wanted than what he quoted me. Is your recommendations for both the desktop and the laptop or just the desktop? Also, do you have any idea how much more those recommendations will tack on to the quoted price? Yes, I plan to keep my computers for 4-5 years before trading them in and I do plan to upgrade to Vista when it is more widely compatible.So everything else is okay? Also, I am buying a desktop computer for my 14 year old neice who will only be using her computer to surf the net, download music and very light gaming, the gateway rep said that the desktop quoted would be good for her as well. What do you think about that?


Yes, for BOTH systems, this will keep them both in line for future use, and EASY FUTURE UPGRADES, ......you know you'll have too

This will bring up the price some, how much depends on them.
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7. Jul 18, 2007 11:29 AM in response to: PeggyFair
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883107195

This is a good hp computer and it comes with window xp if you don't like vista. Its also one of the cheapest i would say.
Click to view spike's profile Member 1,235 posts since
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8. Jul 18, 2007 11:42 AM in response to: PeggyFair
PeggyFair wrote:Thanks Spike. I went to the HP website as Rgreen recommended and it seems as if they are cheaper than Gateway. Gateway is very expensive. The only downside is that all of HP's machines come with Vista only. What are your thoughts on getting Vista instead of XP on a new machine? Vista kind of scares me. LOL.

Not a lot of hugh differences,shouldn't be much trouble to pick it up, wouldn't let Vista stop you from getting a better comp., if you like the one from HP better, then buy that one, Vista or XP, ........whats the difference, they're both Microsoft, how much different could it be.
Click to view spike's profile Member 1,235 posts since
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11. Jul 19, 2007 7:01 AM in response to: PeggyFair
Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?

4GB of RAM will do you no good, 32bit vista will only recognise 3.25 GB and in some cases, exceding that limit will actually slow the comp. down.
Click to view spike's profile Member 1,235 posts since
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14. Jul 19, 2007 7:12 AM in response to: PeggyFair
PeggyFair wrote:> spike wrote:Thats a lot better!!, ...........however you still don't have DX10 capable video cards ( or chips ), in any of the three???? , too expensive?, forgot to ask ?, don't care ?


Thanks! I had the new rep customize it with me as I was looking at the Gateway website and they didn;t have that as an option. This is what they have as options:


Video


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NVIDIA GeForce 7500LE 256MB (512MB shared)