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Jul 18, 2007 11:35 AM

Wal-Mart to Sell $300 PC with OpenOffice

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Click to view freejazz's profile New Member 46 posts since
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1. Jul 18, 2007 1:54 PM in response to: PCWorld
Wal-Mart to Sell $300 PC with OpenOffice
Oh YEA, THAT'LL be a classic. Always nice to get an PC that's outdated before you get it home. Leave it to Walmart. "Always cheap garbage, Always"
Click to view solvetime's profile New Member 11 posts since
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2. Jul 19, 2007 10:27 AM in response to: PCWorld
Lol...
I have my own concerns about compatibility with Oo... especially for powerpoints. I bet a lot of people will get pist off. So... windows vista basic, a via cpu, integrated graphics, 1GB of ram, a dvdrw drive, 80GB hdd. I think this is a pretty nice system! Maybe add a graphics card when you get home...
Click to view dbtmellis's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jul 19, 2007
3. Jul 19, 2007 10:42 AM in response to: PCWorld
Dont buy anything from walmart
Walmart makes junk. Plain and simple.

If i had a microwave that quit after 2 years...this comptuer will probably meet the same fate.
Click to view freejazz's profile New Member 46 posts since
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4. Jul 19, 2007 1:18 PM in response to: PCWorld
It's from Walmart, so it'll probably be the first PC that rusts after one year
Click to view JonathanSwift's profile New Member 19 posts since
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5. Jul 19, 2007 2:49 PM in response to: PCWorld
Wal-Mart to Sell $300 PC with OpenOffice
What no picture?
Click to view Northlite's profile New Member 32 posts since
Jun 7, 2007
6. Jul 19, 2007 2:57 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Dont buy anything from walmart
dbtmellis wrote:Walmart makes junk. Plain and simple.


If i had a microwave that quit after 2 years...this comptuer will probably meet the same fate.


I do not read in the Corp info on Everex anywhere that Wal-Mart owns it or makes their computers? I do know this company has been in business for quite a while and has sold computers in other retail stores.
Click to view butlerwm's profile New Member 61 posts since
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7. Jul 19, 2007 3:54 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Dont buy anything from walmart
Northlite wrote:I do not read in the Corp info on Everex anywhere that Wal-Mart owns it or makes their computers? I do know this company has been in business for quite a while and has sold computers in other retail stores.

Thanks Northlite for the voice of reason. Everex has been making PCs since moby dick was a minnow and unless they've recently been purchased by Wal-Mart, they're still a seperate entity. Besides, Wal-Mart has their own branded electronics -- it's iLo. But then, even those are made by various, reputable companies.

What I've seen from Wal-Mart with regard to PCs is they'll package the lower level models from as many of the large makers as they can. Add to that their buying clout and it's a wonder they hadn't come out with a sub-$300 desktop sooner.

Don't get me wrong. I think Wal-Mart has gained a reputation for selling lowend products. But this price point with the list of hardware and software are good enough for the average home user. And last time I checked, there aren't a whole lot of home users trying to run other people's powerpoints on their PCs.

Last, but not least, I've used OpenOffice since it was StarOffice. From my point of view, the problem has less to do with compatability than it does with the user interface. The more recent versions have more of an MS Office look-and-feel. What that means is unless you're a real nut-behind-the-wheel, the transition to OpenOffice should be pretty painless.
Click to view ImaPhake's profile Member 219 posts since
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8. Jul 19, 2007 6:15 PM in response to: PCWorld
Just because it's a sub-$300 PC and being sold at WalMart doesn't mean it is junk.

Fact is, a lot of people buying a PC purchase one that has a lot more power and features than needed. If you're into PC gaming, video processing, etc., then this Everex is not going to provide the necessary muscle.

Having said that, WalMart used to sell sub-$300 PCs from Microtel. Some models could be ordered sans OS, or with Lindows (a version of Linux). Other than the Via CPU, those computers were pretty much the same thing and they are far from being "junk." Just don't buy one and expect to do the same things you can do on an $800 PC (or higher) because you will be sorely disappointed.

I purchased several of the Microtel PCs without an OS for my business and each and every one of them are still running and have had nary a problem over the years. I would expect no less from a long-time manufacturer such as Everex. They have a good reputation (although many people are unaware of the brand) and I will likely purchase several of the Everex Impact PCs detailed in this article. The Via CPU consumes less power than a comparable AMD or Intel CPU, so that's another plus regardless of how well-known it is, or isn't.

Yes, you get what you pay for. Knowing your actual needs before buying a PC goes a long way in determining whether something is "junk," or not. Don't expect to put a power-hungry, high-end graphics card, a second internal hard-drive or addtional optical drives in any PC in this price range because they usually come with a PSU that is incapable of sustaining the demands of many additional devices (sub-300 Watt).

Bottom line, the Everex Impact model looks good to me and until it proves otherwise, I would judge it to be a capable system for my business . Your mileage may vary, depending on your needs. If you need to see Aero every time you boot up and expect to play the latest Half Life game, then this PC obviously isn't for you.
Click to view dbtmellis's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jul 19, 2007
9. Jul 20, 2007 3:03 PM in response to: PCWorld
well i have had bad experices with walmart on all sorts of stuff.

mircowave quit after 2 years
flimsy furnature (doesnt survive a moving van very well, i want sturdy soild wood not particle boards and hardware holding it together)
kitchen utensils that break after a few months
clothes that wear our after 20 washes
a bicycle that feels like it about to shimmy apart any minute when i ride it
a bicycle helmet that broke when it was dropped 2 feet from my bed to the floor
the food section is nasty, trash all over the floors, i even saw fly maggots on peaches, reported them to the health dept, the store mangager told me that i didnt know what i was talking about , that they had "passed" thier inspection a few weeks ago.

I wont buy anything at walmart if i want it "built to last" i will go elsewhere.

I buy only these things
toothpaste
soap
shaving cream
razors
anything that is replaced on a regualr basis

yes it might be what someone "needs" but unless walmarts repulation improves, i wont buy things like that

Edited by MPHEnterprises - Watch Your Language

Click to view xenium's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jul 19, 2007
10. Jul 19, 2007 11:35 PM in response to: PCWorld
Wal-Mart to Sell $300 PC with OpenOffice
What a crappy computer. I got my new one from chipfast.com and I'm glad I did!
Click to view freejazz's profile New Member 46 posts since
May 24, 2007
11. Jul 20, 2007 4:55 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Dont buy anything from walmart
More talk without experience to back it up. Let me guess, you work for the company. C'mon, will ya? have you RAN a sub $300 computer recently. ANYTHING with less than a dual core CPU and a gig of ram these days doesn't have enough power to get out of it's own way. REGARDLESS of what the user is running. Even basic browsing today requires some power, unless you've got nothing but time to waste watching your screen do nothing waiting for anything to open. C'mon huh, don't talk unless you know what you are talking about. There is a built in obsolesence in computers today. Try running office '07 on a $300 computer, and when Word opens, call me, we'll do lunch, on the moon

butlerwm wrote:> Northlite wrote:I do not read in the Corp info on Everex anywhere that Wal-Mart owns it or makes their computers? I do know this company has been in business for quite a while and has sold computers in other retail stores.


Thanks Northlite for the voice of reason. Everex has been making PCs since moby dick was a minnow and unless they've recently been purchased by Wal-Mart, they're still a seperate entity. Besides, Wal-Mart has their own branded electronics -- it's iLo. But then, even those are made by various, reputable companies.


What I've seen from Wal-Mart with regard to PCs is they'll package the lower level models from as many of the large makers as they can. Add to that their buying clout and it's a wonder they hadn't come out with a sub-$300 desktop sooner.


Don't get me wrong. I think Wal-Mart has gained a reputation for selling lowend products. But this price point with the list of hardware and software are good enough for the average home user. And last time I checked, there aren't a whole lot of home users trying to run other people's powerpoints on their PCs.


Last, but not least, I've used OpenOffice since it was StarOffice. From my point of view, the problem has less to do with compatability than it does with the user interface. The more recent versions have more of an MS Office look-and-feel. What that means is unless you're a real nut-behind-the-wheel, the transition to OpenOffice should be pretty painless.

Click to view rgreen4's profile Old Hand 3,702 posts since
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12. Jul 20, 2007 11:05 AM in response to: PCWorld
Everex Computer
While I know little about Everex or Via except for their older video cards and BIOS on Win95 and Win98 machines, It's not a bad idea. Nothing is said about who the MB manufacturer is, but odds on it's also VIA, considering that the chip has at best up to now a niche market. (This machine by itself will not change that).

Checking the Via website, I was dissapointed to see most of it hypeing "carbon free" processors. While the chip is properly a reduced energy chip, they get to the "carbon free" by buying "offsets". Hogwash. That's like me building an all electric, 24 hour lit, 6,000 sq. ft. mansion and calling it "carbon free" because I pay 60 peasants in China for the electricity they don't use. All the hype does is muddy the water.

As for longevity, one of those machines have as much chance of being trouble free as does a Core2Duo Quad chip in a PC from a major manufacture such as HP, Dell, or Asus. They are all electro mechanical devices, manufactured from assembled parts from a variety of sources. Murphy lurks in the cases of all of our PC's, and spending time in the support forums just reinforces that.

If this machine provides an avenue for income limited individuals to be able to get on the internet, and keep in touch with friends and loved ones it is invaluable. Will it suppy the needs of the young college crowd who wants the latest and greatest high powered game? No, but it may supply the needs of those who want just the basic needs. There are people out there still happy with P3's running Win98. I have one. I also have a P4 with XP Pro and an C2D with Vista Home Premium. Each has its place and serves a need.

A family is more likely to spend $300 for a computer for their 8 year to use, than $1,500 which most of us consider as a budget for a reasonable machine for our wants, not our needs.


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Click to view freejazz's profile New Member 46 posts since
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13. Jul 20, 2007 11:09 AM in response to: PCWorld
Oh c;mon, will ya? I just bought a new PC for my wife. Dual Core, 1 GB of Ram, 160GB Hard drive. A Dell for $369 shipped. You have to be a complete imbecile to buy this walmart piece of junk. $1200 for a computer, what planet are you on?
Click to view rgreen4's profile Old Hand 3,702 posts since
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14. Jul 20, 2007 11:49 AM in response to: PCWorld
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Please note - I did not say we needed a $1500 PC, just that we desired or wanted one.

Yes, you can get lower priced units that function perfectly well and serve our needs. That was the gist of my comment about the sub $300 Wal-Mart PC.

You just reinforced my comment. If you can get a Dell to serve your needs at $369, it's not that much of a stretch to $298.

Vist the PC Worlds support forum for Windows, Laptops and Desktops. A typical request on the laptop forum starts out "I'm going to college in the fall, I need a laptop, my buget is $xxxx, what would you recommend?" Substitute for the xxxx, $1,000; $1,500 etc.

Everyone who purchases anything, (unless the last name is Hilton or Getty) has to balance need verus desire versus monetary resources.

Although I have never owned a Dell, and have heard tales of poor support, I have been impressed recently on the support forums with the fact that three different Dell Techs have posted replies to solve problems Dell owners have had. They truly are trying harder. I wish you long service and enjoyable times with your new Dell. Browse the forums.


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