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Aug 10, 2007 2:59 PM

Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?

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Click to view gorillachicken's profile New Member 32 posts since
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1. Aug 10, 2007 8:01 PM in response to: PCWorld
Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
This article is somewhat heartening to me, since I have shunned Vista, and plan to skip it altogether. I have used it a bit (on others' systems), and I cannot stand it. Windows XP works very well for me, and I'd be stupid to pay $300 for an upgrade to Windows Vista. (Yes, $300, because ONLY Vista Ultimate allows one to install it over an existing Windows XP Pro installation--and I am NOT starting fresh!)
Click to view rgeiken's profile New Member 39 posts since
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2. Aug 11, 2007 12:55 PM in response to: PCWorld
Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
Windows XP has almost died in my house. My new custom built computer from JNCS has a Intel Quad Q6600 processor and 4 gig of ram along with a RAID1 hard drive configuration with Windows Vista installed. It has some issues, but it has been very reliable and sure is easy to use. I have only had it for about a week, but am very happy with the way it operates. I still have my old computer with Windows XP Pro installed, but not sure when I will be using that one again. Anyone getting a new computer will be better served by installing Vista rather than retreating to XP. Windows Vista is just starting out, but XP is about as good as it is ever going to be!!!!
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3. Aug 11, 2007 1:42 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
rgeiken wrote:Windows XP has almost died in my house. My new custom built computer from JNCS has a Intel Quad Q6600 processor and 4 gig of ram along with a RAID1 hard drive configuration with Windows Vista installed. It has some issues, but it has been very reliable and sure is easy to use. I have only had it for about a week, but am very happy with the way it operates. I still have my old computer with Windows XP Pro installed, but not sure when I will be using that one again. Anyone getting a new computer will be better served by installing Vista rather than retreating to XP. Windows Vista is just starting out, but XP is about as good as it is ever going to be!!!!

What does Vista do better than XP?
I need to be enlightened
Click to view mcbarker's profile Enthusiast 724 posts since
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4. Aug 11, 2007 2:09 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
RNR19952 wrote:What does Vista do better than XP?

I need to be enlightened

It makes Bill Gates richer... which is good if you're Bill Gates.


Old Scottish Saying: A deaf man will hear the clink o’ money.
Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 387 posts since
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5. Aug 11, 2007 2:18 PM in response to: PCWorld
Yes but I was serious?
I cannot understand anyones ability to like this OS
And since I am going to be stuck selling and or working on it
I really want to know what it offers?
Besides that Areo interface which is really just stupid, and if that is the biggest selling point, then I guess I am right in my thinking.
This OS is a dud!
An expensive one too!
Click to view mcbarker's profile Enthusiast 724 posts since
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6. Aug 11, 2007 2:38 PM in response to: PCWorld
Sadly, with enough hype, you can make people buy anything. The first thing most people think of when you mention Vista is the Aero interface, and not many of them look beyond that.

Abe Lincoln once said "+You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time+", but then he couldn't possibly foresee into the 21st century.

I think that today's mindset more accurately reflects one of George W Bush's quotes... You can fool some of the people all the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on., but of course, he also said You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.

Welcome to the Age of Mediocrity in America. :(


Old Scottish Saying: A deaf man will hear the clink o’ money.
Click to view ivorycruncher's profile New Member 77 posts since
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7. Aug 11, 2007 5:34 PM in response to: PCWorld
I find this hilarious, and it brings to the table once again the question of what will happen when Microsoft really does pull support for XP. What happens with the whole product activation thing? Will they simply pull the plug on activation, thereby forcing people to stop using XP, or will they just release an update that shuts it off, allowing any and all copies of XP to not require activation anymore? The latter would be the smartest move, but the former would fall in line with the tendencies of corporate greed.

And I will say, now having used Vista for several months both at home and work, that aside from the new eye candy, there isn't really a whole lot that's worth the upgrade. Sure, there's new security features, group policy capabilities, diagnostic and management tools, etc., that have some advantage. But as a whole, there is nothing major that can truly justify the cost of the upgrade. UAC was supposed to be one of the biggest new security enhancements, but while it was a good idea, it is so poorly implemented that it effectively cripples a great deal of software that should be allowed to run. What's really stupid is that it was implemented with an all-or-nothing mentality. It's either on or off, no workarounds, whitelists, etc. A person should be able to tell the OS to always let a particular program run with full admin rights without consent prompts no matter what, but such a feat is not possible with the current implementation.

Now, Server 2008 will be a different story. There is PLENTY of new things in the OS that are a major improvement over Server 2003. I can only hope that the next Windows upgrade will have as many major advances. If not, I see Linux and Apple taking more and more market share than ever before.
Click to view jyin87's profile New Member 50 posts since
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8. Aug 12, 2007 10:10 AM in response to: PCWorld
let us say that microsoft is promoting piracy then if they'd pull support for XP. because XP works better I wouldn't think many people really would willingly switch to vista.
Click to view Jamestown's profile New Member 3 posts since
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9. Aug 12, 2007 10:54 AM in response to: PCWorld
Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
What people don't understand is that if Microsoft pulled the plug on XP than they will lose millions of sales and Apple and Linux will be the happiest OS companies ever. Think about it most people don't want Vista becasue the OS is crap right now, and barely works on my HP comp. I wish that i could afford XP just to make sure the sales go down on Vista. To sum it up Microsoft isn't stupid enough and too greedy to pull the plug on XP, at least for a few more years. :lol:
Click to view mcbarker's profile Enthusiast 724 posts since
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10. Aug 12, 2007 12:39 PM in response to: PCWorld
Major companies generally don't upgrade to new operating systems quickly. It usually takes them years to make the move, and only do so after extensive hardware and software compatibility checks. The company I work for (a fortune 500 company) only recently adopted XP's SP2 update, because SP1 suited their needs, and there were incompatibilities with older software with SP2. I don't foresee them upgrading to Vista anytime this decade. If Microsoft tries to strongarm such companies by removing XP support in 2008, they may eventually find themselves coming off second best to alternative operating systems.


Old Scottish Saying: A deaf man will hear the clink o’ money.
Click to view jyin87's profile New Member 50 posts since
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11. Aug 12, 2007 1:15 PM in response to: PCWorld
well hopefully vista's security restrictions become more lax in order for me to play hd content and run drivers that microsoft doesn't "approve". It looks like the direction vista is taking is that of Microsoft only approving it's own drivers. And then every other driver doesn't work thus making Microsoft own every single industry related to computers.
Click to view zboner's profile New Member 17 posts since
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12. Aug 12, 2007 2:17 PM in response to: PCWorld
I have Windows Vista running on 1 out of 3 computers in my house, i'm satisfied with Vista, it gets the job done for me. On the other 2 computers, I run XP. I'm not suprised that they have exhausted activation keys, XP is a very good system, but i'm tired of people bombing Vista, I've heard enough, and i'm sure people are going to ask me whats so great about Vista. I could care less about what you think.

As for Microsoft to stop supporting XP, I think its a bad idea and they will loose many customers since so many people do not like Vista, but what are they going to do, get an Apple computer? Apple computers cost just as much and are getting just as worse as Microsoft. Microsoft does not care what we think any ways, its Microsoft..
Click to view JohnDoe's profile New Member 1 posts since
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13. Aug 13, 2007 7:15 AM in response to: PCWorld
Interesting discussion.

I would have to side with the comments of the first poster. I have 2 computers, desktop and laptop - both are extremely high spec, desktop I custom built myself and upon which I've both Windows XP Professional & Vista ultimate on a dual boot configuration. Reason I say this is that I believe you need a decent system to work flawlessly and effectively with Vista.

End of the day, I still much prefer Win XP Professional and am also very happy to hear there is still such strong demand for the most reliable windows OS system to date, having used Win 95, 98, 2000 and now XP.

It is not as "bright and glossy" as Vista but in terms of "user configuration", speed, efficiency, XP tops Vista any day of the week. XP was released in 2002, Microsoft just needed to release another OS to prop up investors. I read their next OS called "Vienna" will be released in 2009 so I'll skip Vista altogether hoping Vienna will be the lesser of two evils, didn't really appreciate the EULA that was coupled with Vista.

P.S. One month ago I wanted to purchase a second laptop but unfortunately couldn't find a computer that was sold with XP, they were all Vista machines.....I was very disheartened but will stick to my guns and simply drive to Germany in search of what I'm looking for, wish me luck :P

Click to view Zelwin's profile New Member 2 posts since
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14. Aug 13, 2007 6:05 PM in response to: PCWorld
Windows XP: The OS That Won't Die?
What does Vista do better than XP? Makes me (who has been using DOS and Windows successfully since 1991) a big fan of Steve Jobs and the MAC OS.

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