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14 Replies Last post: Sep 12, 2007 10:08 PM by smax013  
Click to view jkool13's profile New Member 31 posts since
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Aug 24, 2007 4:54 PM

Im buying a mac.....but i need help.

Look I just need to know since im buying a mac this coming christmas. Witch ma should i get. Im going to use it partly for school and partly for the the "fun stuff" (like internet pictures movies music ichat ect.). I have heard alot about all of the macs (macbook, imac, mac mini, macbook pro) and they are all mixed. Some say "this is a great product and i highly reccomend it, ive had no problems with it". Others say, "im very dissapointed the apple OS crashed on me and its a very unsatisfying product." WHO SHOULD I BELEIVE?


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Click to view sonicjosh's profile New Member 14 posts since
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1. Aug 24, 2007 5:21 PM in response to: jkool13
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.

macs are more stable and easier to use than windows

they also run faster than windows in most cases

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2. Aug 24, 2007 8:45 PM in response to: sonicjosh
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
Yea macs are very reliable systems Apple puts quality into there computers.


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Click to view smax013's profile Member Moderators 3,534 posts since
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3. Aug 25, 2007 8:28 AM in response to: jkool13
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
jkool13 wrote:Look I just need to know since im buying a mac this coming christmas. Witch ma should i get. Im going to use it partly for school and partly for the the "fun stuff" (like internet pictures movies music ichat ect.). I have heard alot about all of the macs (macbook, imac, mac mini, macbook pro) and they are all mixed. Some say "this is a great product and i highly reccomend it, ive had no problems with it". Others say, "im very dissapointed the apple OS crashed on me and its a very unsatisfying product." WHO SHOULD I BELEIVE?

Like any computer, Macs will have problems. There are Mac lemons just like there are Windoze PeeCee lemons.


In my experience, the Mac OS is a more stable OS. I have had MUCH fewer problems with my Macs than with my Windoze PeeCees. This is largely due to the fact that Apple controls a lot more than Micro$oft can. There is just no way that Micro$oft can test Windoze with every piece of hardware and software. Since Apple controls the original hardware that goes in a Mac, they are in a much better position to ensure that there are little to no compatibility issues. And since there is a lot less hardware and software out there for Macs to use, it is tougher to get something that causes a problem.


Beyond that, you should really go try out a Mac. There are some people who never really like using a Mac. This can be due to pre-conceived bias...or it can just be due being so used to using Windoze that they just don't like how a Mac does stuff (i.e. the teaching an old dog new tricks bit).


As to which Mac to choose, if you decide to get a Mac...well, you might need to be a little more detailed in terms of your requirements...i.e. budget (how much you want to spend), uses (a little more detailed about what you want to do with it), and what type of existing equipment you might have now that you might want to try to get to work with the Mac. Based upon your brief list in the post, I would say that a Mac Mini or an iMac would work for you if you are after a desktop or a MacBook if you are after a laptop.


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Click to view themagain's profile New Member 115 posts since
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4. Aug 25, 2007 9:51 AM in response to: jkool13
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.

First of all, don't get a mac. They are extremely overpriced for sub-par specs. Anything you get on a mac you can get a pc for 1/2 the cost.

And if you HAD to get a mac, wait for the next OS.

Click to view smax013's profile Member Moderators 3,534 posts since
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5. Aug 25, 2007 10:04 AM in response to: themagain
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
themagain wrote:
First of all, don't get a mac. They are extremely overpriced for sub-par specs. Anything you get on a mac you can get a pc for 1/2 the cost.

And if you HAD to get a mac, wait for the next OS.
Um...not necessarily true. If you get a Windoze PeeCee with truly comparable features as what you would on the comparable Mac, you will find that price differences are not that great. While you can get a Windoze PeeCee for have the cost of an iMac, it will lack some of the hardware and software features that you get on the iMac. If you match processor, hard drive, memory, screen size/type, and other hardware features...and match software capability, you will find that Macs are rather competitive with Windoze PeeCees and can actually be cheaper in some situations (you can get a MacPro for less than a comparably equipped Dell).


But, you are correct to some degree that for the lower end systems, you will likely pay a little more for a Mac than a comparably based Windoze PeeCee. But, saying it would be by a factor of two is grossly overstating it. Now, if you can list the specs of a Windoze PeeCee that is half the price of the similar level Mac WITH as closely match specs as possible and have it be half the price, then I will stand corrected. But, I am doubting that you will be able to do so.


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Click to view RastaMon's profile Member 393 posts since
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6. Sep 11, 2007 10:49 PM in response to: jkool13
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
Are you looking for a laptop or a desktop?

If you need a laptop, you have two choices, the MacBook and the MacBook Pro.

The MacBook is a lot of machine for the money, and will suit most users. It features an Intel Core 2 Duo processor, integrated iSight, FireWire 400 (IEEE 1394a), Gigabit ethernet, Bluetooth 2.0, 802.11n (draft) wireless, and USB 2.0. It can be ordered with a CD-RW/DVD (read only) drive, or a Superdrive, which can also burn dual layer DVDs. (In my opinion, gigabit ethernet and 802.11n are especially important features for any computer from which you expect to be able to use extensively for a few years.) Both the RAM and hard drive are considered by Apple to be user replaceable parts on the Macbook, and are easily accessible. However, the MacBook is not without it's weaknesses. While it is comparable to the MacBook Pro in terms of processing power, the MacBook Pro offers significantly better video performance. If you are planning on doing a lot of graphics intensive gaming, the MacBook is probably not for you.

The MacBook Pro has all the features of the MacBook, but also features a far superior video card, FireWire 800 (IEEE 1394b), and an Express Card / 34 slot. The MBP also features a higher resolution screen, anywhere from 1440 x 900 to 1920 x 1200, depending on model (compared to the MacBook's 1280 x 800 screen resolution).

If you do not need the portability of a laptop, then Apple offers the all in on iMac and the Mac Mini, as well as the Mac Pro. The Mac Mini is Apple's least expensive model, but does not come with a display, keyboard or mouse. The Mini is comparable to the MacBook (except with slightly slower C2D processor, and no iSight), while the iMac is comparable to the MacBook Pro. Both of these models utilize primarily laptop parts, with keeps size and power consumption much lower than desktop systems.

The Mac Pro is highly configurable, and utilizes the Intel Xeon processor line. It sounds like it would be far more computer than your needs require.

I personally find OS X to be more user friendly, and FAR more secure than Windows. Even though I have more experience with Windows, from v. 3.1 to XP SP2, I can do far more with my Mac, since most everything seems more intuitive. That doesn't mean that Macs are without their issues, but in my experience, they are fewer and farther between than with Windows.

Some popular software titles, such as the Microsoft Word and Excel, were available on Macs before they were available on Windows. While most Mac users don't have any need to run Windows software, should that need arise, a new Mac can boot into Windows (or Linux, BSD, etc.), or, with software such as Parallels (and a copy of Windows), Windows' software can be run within Mac OS X.

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Click to view kellie's profile Community Manager 3,137 posts since
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7. Sep 11, 2007 2:19 PM in response to: RastaMon
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
Ditto to everything that RastaMon said. I think that is an extremely thorough and balanced look at the different Apple systems.


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8. Sep 11, 2007 5:36 PM in response to: jkool13
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.

OS X 10.5 will be out by then.


:D

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9. Sep 11, 2007 7:53 PM in response to: Requiem
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
Requiem wrote:
OS X 10.5 will be out by then.


:D

Leopard (aka OS X 10.5) should be released sometime in the next month or so. It is scheduled to be released in October.


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Click to view TRAJIK's profile New Member 116 posts since
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10. Sep 12, 2007 9:53 AM in response to: smax013
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
how much 10.5 will cost?

edit: looks like it will be 130$.......damn, why so cheap? ?:|

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11. Sep 12, 2007 10:12 AM in response to: TRAJIK
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
In at least as far as my recent memory, new versions of Apple OSes have always been $129. And there is only one version -- the full one.

Apple does tend to release a new OS version more often than Microsoft (I think the current version 10.4, came out about three years ago), but I think that in the end it's still a better deal.


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Click to view TRAJIK's profile New Member 116 posts since
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12. Sep 12, 2007 1:13 PM in response to: kellie
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.

Hm.

Yeah, but I still don't get it why's it so cheap...

I mean, Vista costs like 600$, right? So...

Click to view smax013's profile Member Moderators 3,534 posts since
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14. Sep 12, 2007 10:08 PM in response to: TRAJIK
Re: Im buying a mac.....but i need help.
TRAJIK wrote:how much 10.5 will cost?

edit: looks like it will be 130$.......damn, why so cheap? ?:|
Only Apple knows for sure and they tend to be rather tight lipped on upcoming products.


History, however, suggests that it will be $129. That is what every other OS X ugrade price has been.


As to why so cheap...because Apple is largely in the business of selling hardware. As such, they are not worried about making crap loads of money off of the OS, like Micro$oft (who's main bread and butter is software, especially the Windoze OS). I will note that the Mac OS used to be free up until something like OS 8 or so (so long ago that I don't really recall anymore). In addition, keep in mind that Apple does upgrade Mac OS X more frequently than Micro$oft has done (at least recently) for Windoze. In the time that XP was released to the time the Vista was released, Mac OS X has gone through four or so upgrades (again I forget with OS X originally came out compared to XP).


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