Wow! Lets get a few things strait here I'm a WinXP user but I don't like M$. All their OS, except XP, have been total pains. XP is a great OS though, it works with just about any thing i put on it, its GUI is just about perfect, it actually looks good, unlike Vista's Aero interface. If it doesn't natively support something you can still use it because M$ put an emulator in it right out of the box. Its the most stable Win system I've ever used.

Yes I have used Vista its a total p.o.s.. I couldn't play any of my games on it and it crashed just about every thing I put on it. It was a friends PC not mine and I ended up buying him a copy of XP and every thing worked fine on that so I don't know whats up with Vista but till M$ fixes the compatibility problems I'm not using it.

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"If they give you ruled paper write the other way"-dedication of Fahrenheit 451
Stick to games Microsoft! Leave the big stuff to the real programmers. Support Linux, Mozilla, and Open Office.org in the Open Source Revolution!!!

Oh, any casual reader of these discussions is very aware of your disdain for Vista.

Again though, with the cart in front of the horse, you fail to understand, PROGRAMS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE COMPATIBLE WITH OPERATING SYSTEMS not the other way around. Games have historically been the main culprit in taking short cuts in the interest of speed, which causes problems when a new OS hits the market. They have ignored Microsofts programming standards for years tot he detriment of compatiblily. These discussion threads have had more than one respondend complaning that a new game would cause lock ups an poor performance - on XP. We even had one ask about ditching XP and taking a new computer back to Win98 because on a game. Do you run your games on Xubuntu? You tout it in every post via your signature block.

If Xbuntu were compatible with your games, as you think any OS should be, then you could just ditch that nasty Microsoft Operating System - XP.

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Hey rgreen, Actually, I thought I had seen MCE 2005 on the shelf at some point in time. Anyway, you're right about the lack of support. I gave that some thought as well. Seeing as how most of what I do on this thing is media related I just decided to stay with what I have as it serves my purpose. If I was doing a lot of business apps, I would go with XP Pro. As It is I do use a word processor at times, and I have Microsoft Works. If I can't find the posts on the subject of the installation, I guess I could send out an SOS on the forum. I also do some gaming as well. I just figure getting a good rig less OS is probably the best way to go, seeing as how I want nothing to do with Vista. coastie65

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eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD

I have removed vista twice off my pc in the last 3 months.....and here it is back on here again....i do remember hating XP the first time also....i agree it does run more sluggish, and for some reason usually only while connected online???? But after getting used to it a bit, I think the worst thing is "ADMIN RIGHTS" this pisses me off!...it is 'my" computer!......but wait a minute....there is No "My Computer" on vista!.....I guess it is Microsofts PC!....I am sure that that is probably somewhere in the licsense agreement! I have read somewhere on how to regain my admin rights to my own pc , but watch out!...I lost my boot manager that way! The moral of the story here is this.....I tried Ubuntu, a linux distribution, and found it wierd....but, hey....so isn't vista and Xp when it came out....it's time to get rid of Big Brother and be free....Once I learn Linux and find the right distribution it will be see ya later microsoft!

My sister had a similar experience to others above. Namely, she bought her daughter a new Vista notebook (NOT a cheapie), and the piece of crapola was virtually UNUSABLE as-delivered. After exhaustive, failed tech support, they wiped the drive and went to XP, and the machine ran GREAT.

My nephew thought he was "smart" w/ his bootleg copy of Vista. I laughed at him, and said he'd get his just due. He bragged about how "great" it was, and ribbed me for being "behind the times." I told him, "We'll see!" The OS drove him CRAZY, so he had to get rid of it, and he now professes hatred for the OS, and....curiously, has amnesia about his bet he placed w/ me. :o)

This thing is junk, and it will not be a good system for at least another 6 months. Early adopters got suckered! I have 2 Win2k machines and one XP Pro SP2 box, and don't share in all the hassles.

People who say these are normal "growing pains," etc. are living in La-La Land. Greed drove a premature release!

After being on the market for nearly 7 years, XP has had major fixes, minor tweaks, and some good overhaul, why would I want to give up a perfectly running machine over something that has been on the market for only 8-9 months?

I agree with your compliant. After Vista was released, most of the computers companies quite offering XP, Alienware was one of a few that were offering the buyer a choice. Soon after, I heard Dell decieded to make the same offer because XP requests were so strong.

Prizmeye - probably the main thing that helped was when they reformatted the HD and installed XP was that they got rid of the bloatware, including Symantec. I hope that when they downloaded the drivers for the laptop they saved them and then installed them. If not you might advise them to download all the drivers again and save them in a driver folder on the HD and burn them to a CD. These drivers are available for the "transition" models - those that were originally available with XP and now come with Vista. Some models are out now that were never available with XP, and there it becomes a little dicier.

They may want to read this Document that I generated several months back.

Of course they will no longer be able to get support for any of the software on their machine from the manufacturer, but that at time may not be much of a discouragement.

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