Re: Farewell Vista, Hello XP
Out of curiousity, I tried your link and got this:
Then when I tried the link to MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G there were instructions for 6.06, 6.10 and 7.04 with the last commentary over 6 months old. Nothing about 7.10 and this is the introduction:
Following the headings for the three types of Ubuntu are text based commands. You may not call them arcane, but the terminology is foreign to anyone not versed in Linux.
Most of the NTFS volumes I would have been interested in accessing are not on the systems in question, but other systems on the network and the Network Attached Storage where all my data resides. It is a moot point anyway, since I have had my dabble in Ubuntu and went back to XP and Vista which work for me.
Jackie40d - when you live out in the country as I do, Sprint and Verizon are not even on the map. My telephone provider is Windstream and although I can see the main box from my front yard they have not deemed to install the $30,000 card to enable DSL in this area. I have good cell phone service from AT&T because I am on a few miles west of I75, but 5 miles west of here we loose cellphone service until we get close to Thomasville. Starbucks in either 30 miles north in Tifton, or 22 miles south in Valdosta. On Hughesnet standard service the daily limit is 200MB and then it goes on restriction (slower than dial-up) for the remainder of the 24hours. We do have unlimited download from 3AM to 6AM but the download speed is only "up to" 750kbps. And that's at the bargain price of $60 a month! Not everyone lives in a metro area with high speed choices.
Re: Farewell Vista, Hello XP
That is probably the best discourse I have seen on delving into Linux. Have you considered turning that into a document and posting it in the Linux discussion area?
I attempted to shorten the learning curve by purchasing the book with all the disks, but the book really didn't delve too much into explanations or teaching the differences. It probably didn't help that it was version 7.04 v 7.10.
RedRat wrote:
One warning I would give in looking for help on the Linux forums and user groups (Usenet) is that there seems to be several different types of people who seem to be willing to "help". There are those who are basically anti-social geeks who know it all are superior to you, and they want to let you and the rest of the community know it also. Sad to say you just have to put up with these people and learn to ignore them. They usually do not offer any real or significant help, just insults. There are the basic geeks who think you are just as knowledgeable as they are so they tend to use acronyms and basically their help sounds like Greek. They are well intentioned but really don't know how to pass their knowledge on to you, you may get a tidbit from them that might be helpful. Then there are the users who are both knowledgeable and recognize that they too were in the same boat you are in. They will provide the most help to you. Just be patient and wade through the rif and raf and chatter, you will get there.
I don't think the Linux users have a monopoly here. Many "help" sites in Windows suscribe to that model as well. I think that one of the things about the PC World site that makes it so great is that most of us take the latter attitude. As mph is fond of saying - we were all newbies once. One warning I would give in looking for help on the Linux forums and user groups (Usenet) is that there seems to be several different types of people who seem to be willing to "help". There are those who are basically anti-social geeks who know it all are superior to you, and they want to let you and the rest of the community know it also. Sad to say you just have to put up with these people and learn to ignore them. They usually do not offer any real or significant help, just insults. There are the basic geeks who think you are just as knowledgeable as they are so they tend to use acronyms and basically their help sounds like Greek. They are well intentioned but really don't know how to pass their knowledge on to you, you may get a tidbit from them that might be helpful. Then there are the users who are both knowledgeable and recognize that they too were in the same boat you are in. They will provide the most help to you. Just be patient and wade through the rif and raf and chatter, you will get there.
I guess one thing that has helped in this regard is that for years my late sister would call for help. Stepping back and explaining to her over the telephone (she lived 750 miles away), helped me in answering questions here, but it is much more difficult, you don't know how much they know and you have to wait for a written response.
The mistake I may have made is instead of going to the Linux thread here, I went to the Linux forum, and like others starting out, probably got ignored. I note also that there are a lot of Mac postings on this community instead of their own site. Maybe they feel more comfortable over here, and I know we have several who delve into Mac's as well as Windows machines. After all they are all - personal computers.
Re: Farewell Vista, Hello XP
The book I got was Ubuntu for Non-Geeks, 2nd edition by Rickford Grant. As I said, he was not real long on explanations. It is a little over 300 pages long. I guess I was looking for something more, his network wireless connection explanation was to insert the wireless adapter into the laptop and let it connect. It was about a half a page with no trouble shooting help. It was also on 7.04.
Sometimes those just recently into something may be the best in writing something for others just getting into it, for they remember what it was like. I think I fell into answering the Vista questions because I had just gotten mine upgraded, and I had the book Windows Vista:The Missing Manual by David Pogue. I also have his books of similar titles on Win2K, XP and XP SP2. The Vista book is over 800 pages. I was answering question with the book open and experimenting on my Vista Machine.
After answering a question yesterday on networks, and after encouragement, I wrote a document on networks, and yet a little over a year ago, I couldn't get mine to work. I did have help and a submission from MPH on security which I added (with credit to him of course). If you put the document out there, you may get some other Ubuntu adherants to assist with their suggestions.
Sometimes those just recently into something may be the best in writing something for others just getting into it, for they remember what it was like. I think I fell into answering the Vista questions because I had just gotten mine upgraded, and I had the book Windows Vista:The Missing Manual by David Pogue. I also have his books of similar titles on Win2K, XP and XP SP2. The Vista book is over 800 pages. I was answering question with the book open and experimenting on my Vista Machine.
After answering a question yesterday on networks, and after encouragement, I wrote a document on networks, and yet a little over a year ago, I couldn't get mine to work. I did have help and a submission from MPH on security which I added (with credit to him of course). If you put the document out there, you may get some other Ubuntu adherants to assist with their suggestions.
