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9 Replies Last post: Jan 26, 2008 8:17 PM by rgreen4  
Click to view rknutson's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jan 23, 2008
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Jan 23, 2008 6:51 AM

Vista vs XP

I've been a XP user for a number of years and yesterday received a new laptop with Vista. I'm concerned the backed up files I have on WD Passport may not work on Vista. I'm thinking of removing Vista and going to BB and purchasing a XP Home Addition. Is there any value in keeping Vista. The screens are smaller and more difficult to read and all that stuff
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Click to view VladTheImpaler1990's profile Enthusiast 753 posts since
Jun 4, 2007
1. Jan 23, 2008 6:58 AM in response to: rknutson
Re: Vista vs XP

Hey there, well there has been alot of negativity between vista and xp, and some like vista and some don't. Remember you are able to change the size of the print. But if you are advanced user you could dual boot vista and xp so you can have the advantages of both.

But vista has advantages and here are the ones i know of:

  • DX 10
  • Better security
  • More options
  • Better add ons
  • Alot harder to hack

Negatives:

  • Slower than xp if not enough memory( no less than 1gig)
  • Some programs will not run on it.

Other guys will add on. But remember its up to you to decide as i said some people like it and others don't. But try install your program, and if it does not work then i am afraid its vista.
Click to view lilxkid24's profile Old Hand 1,936 posts since
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2. Jan 23, 2008 9:32 AM in response to: rknutson
Re: Vista vs XP
Overall Vista is not that good so far. It has too many annoying features, it eats up your ram by a hell of a lot, Hardware doesn’t run well on Vista,Rebooting a Vista machine is supposed to be faster, but it actually takes longer to reboot than XP, it decreases your fps a hell of a lot in games,The sidebar is another resource hog. Well the good of vista is that it has dx10 support, a whole new skin layout whatever you want to call it. If your looking fro a computer in reliability and speed, i would go with xp. Other than that you can give Vista a try.


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Click to view coastie65's profile Member Moderators 9,163 posts since
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3. Jan 23, 2008 9:42 AM in response to: rknutson
Re: Vista vs XP
In addition to what lil posted, the dual boot is an option, but only if you have the HDD capacity for it and know what you are doing. In my oppinion the negatives still far outweigh the positive as far as Vi$ta goes and am not planning a move in the foreseeable future. coastie65


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Click to view mphenterprises's profile Member Moderators 11,118 posts since
Feb 19, 2007
4. Jan 23, 2008 11:02 AM in response to: rknutson
Re: Vista vs XP
Hi RKnutson and welcome to PCWorld. :-)

Okay, as you can expect, you are going to get a lot of varied and passionate responses regarding upgrading to Vista or sticking with XP. If I may add my two cents on this subject.

As you can see by my signature line, I just finished a major upgrade and, in doing so, have Windows Vista and Windows XP in a Dual Boot setup. Personally, I really like Vista. At first, I was not too impressed; however, as time went on, I definitely see the performance difference between Vista and XP. Now, I must stress, as everyone else has said, your computer system resources must be sufficient enough to run Vista smoothly.

Now, concerning your file on the Western Digital external drive. The location of the files, or even the type of file, has no bearing on whether or not Vista will be able to successfully open the file. For example, if you currently have Office 2007 installed under an Windows XP setup and would like to access the files within Windows Vista, you need to install Office 2007 under the Windows Vista Operating System.

Since you, and I would gather to say the vast majority of the computer world, has become accustomed to Windows XP, it will take some time for you to become acclimated with Windows Vista. If you truly do not want Vista, there are certain things you need to realize before you downgrade to Windows XP. This Document will show you all you need to know about how to downgrade from Windows Vista to Windows XP.

If your laptop has both the system resources and the hard drive space, you can consider a Dual Boot setup. Now, when I say system resources, I mean a minimum of 2GBs of RAM and at least 160-250GB of hard drive space. Since you have not told us your laptop's manufacturer and model number, we cannot tell you whether or not your computer can handle a Dual Boot set up.

By the way, I posted this using the Windows Vista portion of my Dual Boot system.


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Click to view SusanC's profile New Member 124 posts since
May 26, 2007
5. Jan 26, 2008 4:59 PM in response to: mphenterprises
Re: Vista vs XP
Welcome to Windows Vista MPH!!! I'm getting more used to it now and like it. This faster processor is good too. I did have a scare with a FATAL ERROR one day, but that seemed to clear itself up nicely and all has been fine since then. I burn my photos onto a CD on a regular basis since I really care a lot about those more than anything else. I have things on other CD's that I can paste to Vista and those work great also. I wonder if XP will always be around or not. I had Windows ME at one time and that was a total horror story and absolutely nothing would work on that. Finally, I got XP as a replacement per Microsoft and at that time I had a Gateway PC and the Gateway store near us did the replacement for me. At least now I have recovery disks for this PC.
Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 6,830 posts since
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6. Jan 26, 2008 6:11 PM in response to: mphenterprises
Re: Vista vs XP
There is another problem. Many of the newer laptops by HP, Dell and others are using the Intel 82801HEM/HBM SATA ACHI Controller to access the HD and the BIOS is severly crippled. My HP dv9500t has no user changable options in the BIOS. Thus the ACHI feature cannot be turned back to IDE, and XP simply halts after loading all the files into memory. It reports that no HD can be found and restarts the machine.

Now this is not a problem for me as I did not actually intend to install XP on this laptop (Vista supporter as I am), but was Intellectually Intrigued http://forums.pcworld.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-88934-2094/Emo.hi.gif about whether it can be done. I know for a fact that XP Pro SP1 and XP Home SP2 (HP provided original CD's) will not load. I have a copy of XP Pro SP2c coming, I will see it that will work. Otherwise there is a convoluted possible workaround but this may only be available for HP machines as the referenced Softpac should only run on HP branded machines.

This explains why the aftermarket MB's installed in cases do not seem to have the problem of installing XP with SATA HD's (as in the case with my Gigabyte P35 board with an even newer chipset). Manufacturers limit the options in the BIOS to limit the amount of problems they have to solve through Tech Support. My HP Media Center has a limited BIOS, but at least it does have some options.


All the more reason to "roll our own" in the desktop world, but in the laptop world we are more limited.


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Click to view mphenterprises's profile Member Moderators 11,118 posts since
Feb 19, 2007
7. Jan 26, 2008 6:42 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Vista vs XP
Hi RGreen. Not to stray off course too much but I think that the only reason people do not build custom laptops is because they are unaware that custom laptops are even possible. I am investigating several companies that supply everything one needs to build a custom laptop. Building a custom laptop is no harder than building a custom desktop. It's just on a much smaller scale. :D


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Click to view smax013's profile Member Moderators 6,494 posts since
Jan 28, 2007
8. Jan 26, 2008 7:04 PM in response to: mphenterprises
Re: Vista vs XP
mphenterprises wrote:Hi RGreen. Not to stray off course too much but I think that the only reason people do not build custom laptops is because they are unaware that custom laptops are even possible. I am investigating several companies that supply everything one needs to build a custom laptop. Building a custom laptop is no harder than building a custom desktop. It's just on a much smaller scale. :D
I suspect it is also a function of what kind of laptops one can build on your own. I don't believe that you can do very slim, sleek custom laptops. They tend to be the more "powerful" ones that are potentially desktop replacements, not ones that "road warriors" would want.


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Click to view rgreen4's profile Member Moderators 6,830 posts since
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9. Jan 26, 2008 8:17 PM in response to: smax013
Re: Vista vs XP

Yes, I am aware that one can custom build laptops, but Smax is correct in that they tend to behind the curve in design. It is ironic that in desktops, the best looking machines are custom builds (ala mph's new build), but custom built laptops tend to be klunker and look like the laptop designs of 5 or more years ago.

The manufactured laptops are now the sleek designs from HP, Dell, Asus, etc. Who would have ever thought that we would see red laptops with the Ferrari prancing horse? Of course you pay for that decal on the lid.





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