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21 Replies Last post: Jan 28, 2008 5:36 AM by pfletcher   Go to original post 1 2 Previous Next
Click to view billin's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jan 23, 2008
15. Jan 25, 2008 12:22 PM in response to: pfletcher
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
Clearly, someone's parents wouldn't buy them a Mac when they were a child. Sheesh - bitter much?
Click to view pfletcher's profile New Member 52 posts since
Jan 14, 2008
16. Jan 25, 2008 12:55 PM in response to: billin
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
Not at all - I just have more sense than I have money - oh and I come from a country where Apple didn't buy themselves a market (loss leaders into education anyone?)
Click to view Realtosh's profile New Member 5 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
17. Jan 28, 2008 4:35 AM in response to: pfletcher
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
At the time Apple was using PowerPC processors, Intel had Pentiums. Pentium chips increased rapidly in speeds in successive generations by increasing the number of instructions per cycle The problem is that these chips became increasing inefficient. That's why their speed rating would go up, while the actual speed of getting real work done would go down. This great inefficiency resulted in very hot chips that sucked up a lot of energy and didn't do enough work to justify the energy use and speed rating.

When Apple switched to Intel, they used Intel’s new Core series of chips. The Core chips use much RISC-like design but are compatible with the x86 instruction set.

Pentiums were very bad chips that were developed to compete with AMD in the Mhz race. They make better heaters than processors.

Apple would have never moved from PowerPC to Pentium.
Click to view Realtosh's profile New Member 5 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
18. Jan 28, 2008 4:41 AM in response to: pfletcher
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
IBM was focused making chips for their servers and the embedded markets. So Apple had a choice of very powerful server chips that were too hot for laptops (G5) or underpowered low energy chips for the embedded market that lacked the computing power for laptops. Apple was making amazing servers that used much less energy than the alternatives. Unfortunately, the power of Apple’s laptops stagnated because IBM would not bother to make the G5 more efficient to allow use in laptops.

Intel had lost their way with the Pentiums, but with the superior engineering and design principles of the Core chips, was able to recruit Apple away from IBM. Apple would get a chip supplier who’s core market is computer makers like Apple.

The bonus is that Apple’s kit would be Windows-compatible and made it easier for previous Windows users to consider Apple gear. The Intel chips made an Apple purchase easier, but in practice most switchers stop switching back into Windows soon after experiencing MacOS X.
Click to view Realtosh's profile New Member 5 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
19. Jan 28, 2008 5:02 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
The Toshiba R500 is not thinner than the MacBook Air. The spec sheets of both at their respective websites confirm this. To argue otherwise is to defy physics and question our intelligence.

If one wants all those ports and an optical drive, the MacBook is a great alternative to the Toshiba R500, plus the MacBook is about half the price in a very small package even if heavier and with a bigger screen.

The MacBook Air is about a new laptop paradigm. In a truly wireless world, all those ports and optical drive are not necessary. Apple is able to make the MacBook Air extremely thin by not including them. The technologies Apple developed in making the MacBook Air will filter into Apple’s other laptops.

Finally competition is good. Apple makes good stuff, but I wouldn’t want top pay more than necessary.

But can you say “Vaporware”? When a company feels they can’t compete (ehem.. Toshiba) they talk about an imaginary product that isn’t shipping till the end of the year.
Click to view Realtosh's profile New Member 5 posts since
Jan 18, 2008
20. Jan 28, 2008 5:03 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air
Some people will want one laptop; some will want the other. That’s what competition is all about. That means we all get better laptops for less as the companies compete for our business.

But, please don’t insult our intelligence. We are all capable of checking actual web sites. Most people are too busy to check or could care less. That’s why there is a journalistic responsibility to tell the truth and not mislead the readership.

For the real facts check their websites. This blog post is just troll bait looking for hits. Nothing to see here. Please move along.
Click to view pfletcher's profile New Member 52 posts since
Jan 14, 2008
21. Jan 28, 2008 5:36 AM in response to: Realtosh
Re: Toshiba Portege Goes Up Against Macbook Air - x86 vs G5
INDEPENDENT - NOT APPLE tests at the time of G5 proved the x86 architecture chips (regardless of clock rate performance) to be faster overall - there was one particular photoshop test using a filter in a particular fashion, on a particular type of file, where the G5 was faster - so in typical Jobs fashion he named the G5 the fastest system in the world (neglecting as always to give the complete story).

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