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57 Replies Last post: Mar 2, 2008 4:31 PM by rgreen4   Go to original post 1 2 3 4 Previous Next
Click to view rtfire1's profile Member 456 posts since
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31. Feb 12, 2008 10:08 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
I had a 36 inch (3 foot) round (instead of flat) 40 pin ide Ultra DMA 133/100/66 cable in my full tower case. i think i paid 20 bucks for it at compusa
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32. Feb 12, 2008 1:34 PM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
I was thinking of my normal trick in some of the taller cases of putting the CD/DVD in the bottom bay, but that won't work on your case as the bottom two 5 1/4" bays are internal bays. It also appears that the 3 1/2" internal bays at the bottom as well as the top group of bays have a screwless drive retaining system. The 3 1/2" bays in the middle (I can't tell if they are internal only or not) use screws.

The tech is partly right in that the standard cable is about 24" long. However, longer cables are available. Here is a sample from Newegg. There may be a different solution though. With the CD/DVD in the bottom most external slot, and with the HD in the topmost slot that it will fit into. What are the following measurements:

A. From the MB IDE connector to the back of the CD/DVD?

B. From the back of the HD up to the back of the CD/DVD?

I am trying to figure out if a 36" cable would work ok. Another option is to get a bracket like this would be a better option. While normally used to mount 3 1/2" floppies in a 5 1/4" bay, I have used them in the past to mount 3 1/2" HD in a 5 1/4" bay. (Without removing the case bland and without the floppy bezel attached). I am curious in that you said the HD screws would not fit when the drive was in one of the middle bays. Was it the screws, or that the holes would not line up?

Now you know why we like SATA so much. One cable, one connection. And they come with right angle connectors and in short, medium and long lengths.


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34. Feb 18, 2008 7:42 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
Hi Dumbo. It sounds to me like possibly a problem in BioS. If there is nothing to process, then you wouldn't have any CPU activity. You would need to boot from the optical drive in order to install the OS after which you can change and boot from the HDD. Whether or not this has been done, you didn't say, so I am assuming you haven't gotten that far. Also, with no OS, you probably won't have a signal to the monitor, until you start a boot from the windows disk. I may be wrong on this as I haven't yet decided to to a build. If you can get to Bios ( you didn't say) and you haven't yet installed the OS, make sure you are booting from the Optical drive. You then need to boot from the windows disk. It sounds as if all your hook ups are good. might want to recheck the hook up for the HDD though. coastie65


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36. Feb 18, 2008 9:07 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
Hi Dumbo, Yeah, there should have been a beeping and error code as there was no memory installed. Unusual, but may be a bad MOBO out of the box. Go ahead and make the exchange as it sure can't hurt. coastie65


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
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37. Feb 18, 2008 9:08 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc

You cannot install any board software till you have an OS running on the hard disk.

U cant tell if the HD is the problem as u r not getting to the bios screen .HD shud be fine.

Can u see anything, i mean anything on the screen when you power up, any coding or intel or some other logo or is it blank from the beginning?

If u cant see anything it may be a dead board, or cpu connection problem.


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Click to view coastie65's profile Member Moderators 3,967 posts since
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38. Feb 18, 2008 9:15 AM in response to: piyushsingh
Re: Building a new pc
Hi piyush, I didn't see any coding or hear any beeps, so it is probably one of those rare boards that slip through the cracks. Fortunately he can exchange it. coastie65


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
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40. Feb 18, 2008 9:47 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
I suspect you got one of those rare boards that slipped through the QC cracks. Fortunately you can replace it, which I would. no harm no foul there. As the Tech said, you should have gotten an audible sound as well as an error message after you removed the memory and you got neither. coastie65


eMachines T5212.... Intel Pentium D 945 3.4Ghz..... evga 8600 GT 256 Mb PCI-E video card..... Realtec HD audio......2 Gb 533 Mhz DDR2 memory..... Lite on CD RW; DVD +R / RW DL optical drive...... Windows XP MCE 2005....... Antec Basiq 500w PSU......200 Gb PATA HDD
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41. Feb 18, 2008 10:06 AM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
Hey, Dumbo74, if my memory serves me correct, you have onboard video. With onboard video you do eliminate the question of bad video card or motherboard. That being said, the very first thing you should get when you power on a system for the first time (I always call it my "smoke" test) is the Motherboard Logo and then comes the Post, then the options across the bottom of the screen.

But you are not getting beyond the power on of the monitor. If you are not seeing the ASUS power-on screen, then you are not getting video, which leads to the conclusion of a dead MB, or a bad Power Supply. Whether you have any devices or not, the MB should go through the check routine and inform you that there is no boot device.

If you have already made arrangements to return the board, then go ahead and do so. If the board fails their inspection they will inform you and send you a replacement. If it passes their test, you will inform you of that and probably send the same board back to you. I have only had one bad mobo in the time I have been building PC's, and fortunately it was not my first. I didn't have the help of the PCW community back then (early 90's). Be as cautious as you can be when removing the CPU, heatsink and fan. Clean the thermal paste off and return them to their original shipping containers (you did keep them right?). Again, do not touch the underside contacts of the CPU.

Remember my friend - adversity builds character. We will get through this, and you will have learned a great deal in the process. In the meantime, have you solved your IDE cable problem, or is that one still out there?


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43. Feb 18, 2008 1:09 PM in response to: Dumbo74
Re: Building a new pc
Wow. Are you going to have the items replaced, or take a break before you tackle a build again?


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