PC World Community: Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel ...

Browse by Topic

Home News Reviews How-To Blogs Videos Downloads Shop & Compare Community

Business Center

Magazine

Subscribe & Get
a Bonus CD

Customer Service

Up to Discussions in News Discussion

13 Replies Last post: Mar 20, 2008 12:43 AM by bpruck

PCWorld

21,687 posts since
Aug 1, 2007

Nov 17, 2007 4:00 PM

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

Post your comments for Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel here

MasterGuru

21 posts since
Feb 5, 2007

1. Nov 17, 2007 5:14 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

Intel is a massive organization, 149B Market Cap compared to AMD's 7B. AMD made a bad move aquiring ATI. I see their market share slipping massively now with the release of Intel's 45n chips. It was quite astute of Mubadala to reckognize this and to then likely end up a majority investor when they go bump. Look for some large withdrawals of position in AMD soon.

Intel/nVidia will continue to dominate for some time, but look for a rebound later from AMD with other cash infusions and perhaps that new plant in the Middle East....combined smaller Chipsets.... these things take years and plenty of $$..unfortunately for AMD, Intel is already there.

lespaulrokker

5 posts since
Nov 18, 2007

2. Nov 18, 2007 7:02 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

No matter what percent of the market AMD has, I will always use their processors. I can get one for $160 that is faster than one from Intel that would cost me over $900.

Bhujwala

4 posts since
Nov 17, 2007

3. Nov 18, 2007 1:42 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

I too use a AMD dual core proccesor on my brand new laptop and im quite satisfied =]] between intel and amd im going for amd hope fully making more powerfull chips for cheaper

RastaMon

393 posts since
Sep 10, 2007

4. Nov 18, 2007 5:09 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

Intel's Core architecture soundly beats AMD offerings in terms of computing power per Watt. IIRC, AMD is still the leader in terms of computing power per dollar. However, considering they have posted losses for the last four quarters, it is unclear whether they will be able to maintain this position. I think that it will be interesting to see.

TechyGuy

701 posts since
Oct 6, 2007

5. Nov 18, 2007 6:06 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

AMD is in no position whatsoever to target Intel's marketshare. If anything, this articles should have been "Cash in Hand, Intel targets AMD" . Even though AMD has merged with ATI, Nvidia currently holds the GPU marketshare, so AMD buying ATI will probaby hurt AMD-ATI in the future.

art209

140 posts since
Jul 25, 2007

6. Nov 18, 2007 6:17 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

I certainly wish AMD well. I would hate to think where the CPU market would be now without Intel having their competition.

Windows XP and Vista Home Premium / Biostar TF560 A2+ / AMD Athlon 64x2 6000+ / nVidia 8800GTS 320 MB / 2 GB SDRAM DDR2 800

MasterGuru

21 posts since
Feb 5, 2007

7. Nov 19, 2007 3:41 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

I found this very informative review of the CPU's that AMD is releasing today (11-19-2007):

http://www.pcper.com/article.php?type=expert&aid=483

As predicted, AMD will be selling these new CPU's at a low cost....when you can't compete on performance, the only thing left to do is cut your prices and hope they sell - something that is not working for AMD at this time.

When you are looking to spec the machines that a large corporation will use for years, performance is the deciding factor, along with reliability, then cost. Of course, they won't be paying retail prices - not even close, so the price difference is really moot.

This bodes well for Intel, and unfortunately, not very well for AMD. Maybe AMD will be able to catch up with Intel on performance some day and be able to post a profit, but not in this phase...

psyrog

1 posts since
Nov 22, 2007

8. Nov 22, 2007 8:02 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

I hope AMD remains strong.Wasn't that long ago a CPU company named Cyrix was around.They were bought out by National Semiconductor and then sold to VIA Technologies.Just a reminder of what a few years can do.

787dreamliner

4 posts since
Oct 27, 2007

9. Nov 23, 2007 3:11 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Re: Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

Everything minus the L2 Cache and Quad-core technology = AMD

Nothing minus the L2 Cache, ATI CrossFire, nVIDIA SLI, Front-Side Bus, Nortbridge-Southbridge bottleneck and Quad-core technology = Intel

If AMD could focus it viewpoint to its L2 Cache and Quad-core technology, it will have won the battle.

The point is: (AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 6400+ + 8MB L2 Cache + 2 More Cores) = (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650)

NilEinne

2 posts since
Nov 26, 2007

10. Nov 26, 2007 11:45 PM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

It's funny how people keep saying AMD screwed up by buying ATI. Fact is, anyone who's actually been following the market knows they had no choice. True they've made some mistakes & acquiring ATI may have set them back somewhat in the short term. But in the medium to long term, they were screwed if they didn't acquire ATI. AMD had no graphics division to speak of & even chipset wise they had done much. AMD have largely lead Intel in terms of integration & overall tech lead outside of Intel's process lead. But Intel's catching up & it's well accepted integration is going to continue with graphics being next. Intel already have a resonably ok graphics division. So without ATI, AMD was SOL. Since AMD could never afford Nvidia they needed ATI. Infact ironically despite being behind Nvidia in many ways, ATI still seem to lead on power consumption. They also have a few other key tech advantages vital for integration. All in all, acquiring ATI was one of AMD's smartest moves in recent times...

NilEinne

2 posts since
Nov 26, 2007

11. Nov 27, 2007 12:00 AM

in response to: PCWorld

Cash in Hand, AMD Targets Intel

Also, while Nvidia have been better then Via et al in some ways, they were never a perfect chipset provider. They have their own goals obviously & have clearly been more interested in Intel then AMD even before AMD-ATI. Only thing was Intel didn't care about them. But if Intel started being more open, they would have dropped their level of support for AMD as they felt necessary in a heartbeat. Furtermore, Nvidia has concentrated on stuff like quad SLI & 'performance' features which didn't tie in well with AMD price-performance & low power consumption goals. So AMD needed someone to provide the chipsets they needed & also to ensure Nvidia (or for that matter Broadcom) couldn't screw them over or leave them for the dead when their plans no longer fitted in with each others.