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Jan 15, 2008 11:51 PM

MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?

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Click to view redofromstart's profile New Member 7 posts since
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1. Jan 16, 2008 8:12 AM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
This is all irrelevant to the Apple community. The Air has nothing to do with being a real, useful computer; its only purpose is to keep the Macboiz feeling cool and hip. If Apple had given the Air (or any Mac product) a black turtleneck look, the boiz would still be cleaning up the wadded Kleenex.
Click to view patspeak's profile New Member 1 posts since
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2. Jan 16, 2008 8:34 AM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
I find it humorous that people are concerned with what the MacBook Air is missing. I recall the same arguments and concerns when Apple removed the floppy drive from it's systems. Nobody is going to care about the omission of an optical drive. If you really want one, Apple sells a thin external drive. As for ethernet, i haven't plugged my MacBook Pro into an ethernet port since I bought it. I have wireless in my home, and have found that most hotels, restaurants (including my local McDonalds), and even car washes all have wireless connectivity. As for the battery, I seem to recall the same complaint about the iPhone... Of course that hasn't seemed to hurt sales on that front either.
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3. Jan 16, 2008 9:01 AM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
I agree with patspeak above. I use a wireless connection at home for my MacBook, and every hotel I stay in has WiFi. Besides, check out the Configuration Options section for the MacBook Air on Apple's store - you can buy both a USB modem and a USB ethernet adapter. My only beef with the Air is lack of a Firewire 400 port (for my video camera), and the lack of larger internal hard drives. Other than that, I think that Apple nailed it for the on-the-go crowd.
Click to view SlotcarBob's profile New Member 3 posts since
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4. Jan 16, 2008 12:19 PM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
This machine misses the boat. The price is way out of whack. WAY out. It has nothing to do with missing things. Also, by the time you add everything, you no longer have a 3 pound computer. It's now over 4 pounds.

As it is, I pickup my PB, an extra battery, the power cable, and my little mouse (hate trackpads). Off I go. It's all in a small bag that fits on top of my suitcase, which has wheels. The AirBook seems a "hobby" to me, for those with money to blow.

Note: fervent Mac user since 1982.
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5. Jan 16, 2008 1:08 PM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
Apple fans will make do without whatever Steve Jobs tells them they don't need. And they'll stand in line to overpay the price. I just bought a new fully featured laptop for under $700, with optical drive, ethernet, 4 USB ports, and more, and these apple zealots will stay in line all night to buy these overpriced 'cult' machines so they can download apple movies and listen to apple itunes and run apple applications. I would, frankly, be embarrassed to be seen with one, but that goes for the ipod and iphone too, so nothing new.
Click to view ffakr's profile New Member 7 posts since
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6. Jan 16, 2008 8:42 PM in response to: PCWorld
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a) Decades? Really? Apple dropped Floppies and Modems Decades ago? Really? BTW.. no mac users I knew were using Floppies back then. We kept a USB one in the office just to try and recover failed floppy media.
b) You complain about external Optical and have only One example of a sub-note that has an internal. Apple's doing what everyone else is doing. How dare you Apple!
c) Ethernet Seriously Annoying? But you'd bring a fricking Router along rather than a 1oz. Dongle? The Dongle is too much but a router is fine? I'd want internal ethernet too but this isn't a frickin desktop replacement. It's tiny.. it's meant for people who want a computer for email but whine about a 4lb'er being too heavy.
d) One usb is annoying but this is meant for the road. It's Not supposed to be a computer that you use in leu of a full computer. If you're using it as a desktop, buy an external LCD with a hub in it.
A dock would fix everything, didn't think of that though, did you?
My apologies for earlier comments, this is getting under my skin
Click to view ffakr's profile New Member 7 posts since
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7. Jan 16, 2008 2:24 PM in response to: ffakr
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
You know why Apple is going to sell a ton of these? Because it's a nice devoce and because I've heard the people I support demanding this product for years.
I know one long time Mac user who bought a crappy toshiba sub a few years back because the Macs were too heavy. He ONLY wanted it to get email at conferences. He had the money to spend (he's a Nobel Prize winner, seriously), and he's old. It's completely unreasonable for him to carry a 5lb laptop around at a conference when he doesn't need half the features in a typical laptop.
Email, Web, MS Office. That's what this is designed for.
It's not for me but it's a damn nice laptop for the target market. Apple will sell a ton of them.
Click to view Cosmo's profile Member 1,937 posts since
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8. Jan 17, 2008 9:36 PM in response to: ffakr
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
The Acer EEE already has that corner of the market. Small, light, and loaded with enough software to do just about anything a regular laptop can do. Not only that, but the designers weren't retards and took out every port they could find. The Asus EEE comes with 3 USB ports, a MMC/SD reader, ethernet and wireless, and one useable PCI Express Mini Card slot.

Best of all, it costs a thousand less than Apple's shiny paperweight at only $300.


Click to view ffakr's profile New Member 7 posts since
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9. Jan 16, 2008 2:47 PM in response to: Cosmo
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
Someone brought an EEE into the office. I'd want one.. to test ethernet connections. I'd gouge my eyes out if I had to use it as a real computer.
It's got what, 4 or 8MB of flash memory? The screen is, I believe, 800x480 (or something thereabouts). It's a nice toy for about 5 minutes then you realize it's closer to a PDA than a computer.

EEE's not in the same market. When EEE has PowerPoint on it with the proper ports and at least 1024x768 resolution it will have a chance as a real sub-note PC. A Folding full sized keyboard would be nice too. I think typing on the EEE was my biggest complaint (possibly tied with the crappy screen).

What you and everyone else doesn't realize is that there is a robust market in place for devices exactly like the new Macbook. Just because YOU don't want one doesn't mean it's not a nice product. I don't want one either, but it's a brilliantly designed computer.
Click to view SlotcarBob's profile New Member 3 posts since
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10. Jan 16, 2008 3:30 PM in response to: ffakr
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
Look, Apple makes the best hardware, and they make the best software. You get that on this Air. BUT, the cost is WAY over the top. This is all I am saying. I am neither an Apple snipe, or an apologist. For hairygary to suggest we are sheep might be a bit true, but I'm not one of them. I don't think the majority of Mac users are, any more than Lexus drivers are. We want that extra "something" and Apple gives it to us. I toss that PC junk in the garbage when my clients give it to me, after they switch over to Macs. PC's and Windows are junk.

In defense of Apple, their products also retain a lot of value, and last a lot lot longer than their PC brethren. Everyone knows it. I am using a 1999 model of a PowerBook in my entertainment system to send video to my TV monitor. Name me a PC that old that can do that with BUILT IN pieces. Oh, and BTW, the thing is still worth $400. A $300-500 computer is junk, period.

BUT, Apple is charging way to much for this baby. Sure there is nothing to compare with its processing speed, or screen, but, $999 for a 60 GB upgrade to a solid state drive? You gotta know that's a rip. Even the basic machine counts on a 1.8" drive, the same that go in iPods, when, if you ever used one as a startup device, you know how hot they get, and how reading/writing with one for extended periods will kill it.

No, folks, close, but no cigar on this one. That is my guess. The form, the price, and the components will change soon.
Click to view slydawwg's profile New Member 4 posts since
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11. Jan 16, 2008 5:33 PM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete Is It?
No ethernet port! What the hell ! I don't use it much but there are situations when it has to be there . This is a dealbreaker!
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12. Jan 16, 2008 7:19 PM in response to: PCWorld
MacBook Air: How Incomplete Is It?
As a eager potential client and owner of 15 macs both for the business and home, I am sorely disappointed in this new macbook air machine. Way overrated and severely lacks basic features for a highly mobile business owner. Does steve Jobs think we're not capable of changing our own batteries on his mac's. what a Moron!!!!.

I for one will now turn my attention to the Sony because i can change my own battery, get a optical drive, better battery life, lighter weight, better video camera, more connectivity like built WLAN, more ports, etc etc etc. Steve, you blew it baby because you treat us as we live in Russia instead of USA where we like freedom of choice. I smell a lawsuit for these monoplistic practices he's forcing down our throats. We're paying good prices and we deserve to be treated fairly.
Click to view ffakr's profile New Member 7 posts since
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13. Jan 16, 2008 8:41 PM in response to: slydawwg
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete Is It?
I don't like it either but the USB dongle is all of $29 (at least in the EDU store).
Calling this a deal breaker is way above a bit strong.

It's a sexy form factor. An RJ45 isn't a sexy plug.. it's square.

For me, there's really one deal breaker.. it doesn't have a dock. Well, now that I think about it, I plug my macbook Pro into DVI, USB, Power, and audio out every morning. Just one USB by the way.. my Dell 24" cascades all the other USB ports.
I also require FireWire but I work in IT and that's just for data recovery (Target Disk Mode).
Now that I think about it, It would work just as well as my MacbookPro for me but I want a larger HD so I guess I'm stuck with a 15".
Click to view Cosmo's profile Member 1,937 posts since
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14. Jan 17, 2008 9:36 PM in response to: ffakr
Re: MacBook Air: How Incomplete is It?
ffakr wrote:
Someone brought an EEE into the office. I'd want one.. to test ethernet connections. I'd gouge my eyes out if I had to use it as a real computer.
It's got what, 4 or 8MB of flash memory? The screen is, I believe, 800x480 (or something thereabouts). It's a nice toy for about 5 minutes then you realize it's closer to a PDA than a computer.

EEE's not in the same market. When EEE has PowerPoint on it with the proper ports and at least 1024x768 resolution it will have a chance as a real sub-note PC. A Folding full sized keyboard would be nice too. I think typing on the EEE was my biggest complaint (possibly tied with the crappy screen).

What you and everyone else doesn't realize is that there is a robust market in place for devices exactly like the new Macbook. Just because YOU don't want one doesn't mean it's not a nice product. I don't want one either, but it's a brilliantly designed computer.

The Acer EEE comes with 2, 4, or 8gigs of solid state storage. Funnily enough, many people have converted it into a fully functional laptop capable of running XP or Vista. Not only that, but they have also sucessfully installed Microsoft Office so there's your PowerPoint, even though it comes with Open Office.

I don't know what you mean by proper ports, as it has more than the MacBook Air does.

I also don't see what the problem is with a 800x480 res screen, when all you plan to do is check email with it. A blackberry does that, has a worse screen res than the Acer EEE, and is incredibly popular.


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