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Jan 28, 2008 6:15 AM

Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony

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Click to view Dishcandanty's profile New Member 2 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
1. Jan 28, 2008 7:11 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
I don't think they ever should have started a war over formats. This just causes problems because people don't want to buy something they aren't sure is going to be around in a couple of years. Not to mention the cost of customers buying hd-dvd players only to find out it isn't going be around much longer.
Click to view ragexeon's profile New Member 2 posts since
Jan 28, 2008
2. Jan 28, 2008 7:16 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
"Microsoft will have to start using Blu-ray Disc on the Xbox 360 in order to allow users to play high definition video games"

I couldn't disagree more. There's actually no reason that Microsoft needs to switch formats for high definition games. What the author should've said is that Microsoft would need to change formats to allow users to play Blu Ray high definition MOVIES.

There is plenty of precedent for game consoles using "non-standard" formats for games.

Re: Dishcandanty, all format standards go through a "war". The difference is that this this often gets done before a product is released.
Click to view AmyChaser's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jan 28, 2008
3. Jan 28, 2008 7:18 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
The idea that the 360 will be need to switch to a BD drive to play games is just flat out incorrect. The add-on HD DVD drive is simply an accessory that allows HD DVD movie playback. The 360 has offered HD gaming since day one of release without the need for an HD drive let alone a switch to BD.

Was research done for this article or was it just speculation from an uninformed author?
Click to view digriz's profile New Member 3 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
4. Jan 28, 2008 7:29 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
More viral marketing for Sony. Sony will try to retrieve the money spent on it by selling the consumer half empty disc and laughing all the way to the bank. Until i was tipped of i assumed it was fanboys pushing this, now i realise its all new PR i'm just depressed that hegemonic conglomerate practice can force the consumer to take the product that the company with deeper pockets pushes on them. Advertising is one thing, but smear campaigns and timed attacks albeit clever is underhand and forces the consumer to lose out paying more for a product tht is more expensive but offers exactly the same quality sound and image. Search the internet and you can see the new PR firms sitting in front of their PCs absolutely directing our view on this. Very sad for the consumer, shame no one seems to make a stand and even savvy media seem to be eating it up. I won't bother with bluray, but i am looking forward to hearing about the rootkits...
Click to view Yert's profile Member 264 posts since
Jun 30, 2007
5. Jan 28, 2008 7:44 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
The format war is stupid, but I was hopping for HD-DVD. Its the more consumer friendly format.
Click to view DougB541's profile New Member 1 posts since
Jan 28, 2008
6. Jan 28, 2008 9:19 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
This is one of the most poorly informed articles I've ever read on PC World. Please get the facts striaght about Microsoft's intentions with HD-DVD for gaming...as there has never been an intention. Also, there has been no mention of the xbox 360 needing a Blu-Ray drive for games.
Click to view Richard233's profile New Member 2 posts since
Jan 28, 2008
7. Jan 28, 2008 10:21 AM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
The only way they can save the format is to cut the prices, significantly on the media. One of the things that made VHS beat Beta was that it was less expensive. If you cut the price for the movies, that will encourage people to buy HD and if you get enough volume, the costs drop, etc. You need to hit a critical mass to make it work. Microsoft became big because you could get MS-Dos for $40 and CPM was a couple of hundred. CPM was
superior, but sometimes people can't see past the initial costs.
Click to view mpheadley's profile Member 485 posts since
Jun 19, 2007
8. Jan 28, 2008 12:27 PM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
If Paramount reverses its decision a year ago to only support hd-dvd, it's all over. It would be pointless for Universal to continue hd-dvd only.
Click to view butlerwm's profile New Member 108 posts since
Jul 27, 2006
9. Jan 28, 2008 1:09 PM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
Gartner needs to stop trying to play the odds and just let the market do what it's going to do. Market research companies predicted Beta would win out over VHS because they were superior across multiple aspects. I also remember the +R vs -R DVD debate, and we still have both formats. Frankly, I'm not in the market for either blu-ray or hd-dvd. Upconverted (1080p) DVD on Hi-Def TV is more than adequate until such time as the monkeys running the show decide to stop fighting. Then, and only then, will I consider a Hi-Def playback device. Another benefit is that the price of players will be half or a quarter of what they are presently.
Click to view free2speak's profile New Member 85 posts since
Nov 2, 2007
10. Jan 28, 2008 3:50 PM in response to: DougB541
Re: Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
Xbox 360 doesn't need BD for High-Def gaming. Xbox 360 always played HD games. HD DVD drive is for movies only.
Click to view RNR19952's profile Enthusiast 660 posts since
Mar 7, 2007
11. Jan 28, 2008 4:06 PM in response to: digriz
Re: Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony

You nailed it, I have never seen so many media outlets ADVERTISING for any product!

I do not believe that HD DVD is dead, it is a superior format in many ways, and it is cheaper

Hopefully the porn industry will turn this around, and $ony can suffer another loss!

Just go with the Samsung 5000 it plays both

Click to view ImaPhake's profile Member 387 posts since
Sep 1, 2006
12. Jan 28, 2008 6:44 PM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
You guys need to go to the horse races more often. If you did that, you would be inured to the effect of your horse losing before it even got out of the gate. The only "advantage" HD-DVD has over BD is the fact that they can be made on the same machinery as current DVDs. BD wins in every other remaining respect.
Click to view winpro00's profile New Member 13 posts since
Dec 5, 2007
13. Jan 28, 2008 9:20 PM in response to: PCWorld
Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
At this time, saying Blu Ray is better than HD DVD is incorrect. On paper, Blu Ray has the potential of storing more data is true but at a steep cost. Currently an average movie is more than enough to be stored on a single HD DVD. Dolby TrueHD is not on all HD DVDs but it doesn't take much for studios to adopt that standard as Blu Ray did. And scratch resistent? if you have to worry about that, then you should take better care of your disks.
I would of liked the war to drag on for a lot longer since it promotes competition and in turn provides the consumer with a cheaper product.
For Warner Bros all of a sudden switching when they STILL have a contract with HD DVD, I can suspect some under the table money/deal has taken place.
Majority of consumer's love cheap stuff, if HD DVD had a bigger selection, they would definitely be putting Blu Ray out of business on the home movies market.
Click to view RNR19952's profile Enthusiast 660 posts since
Mar 7, 2007
14. Jan 29, 2008 5:03 AM in response to: ImaPhake
Re: Gartner: HD DVD Price Cuts Only Prolong Agony
My biggest problem with BD is that it requires DRM
How is that going to affect home recordings?
I also do not want to support anything that requires DRM

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