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Click to view kellie's profile Community Manager 3,385 posts since
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Mar 31, 2008 2:58 PM

Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

Share your thoughts on our Save DOS campaign, your memories of DOS, and your thoughts on DOS' past, present and future.


Kellie Parker | Online Community Manager | PC World
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Click to view snorg's profile Old Hand 1,651 posts since
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1. Apr 1, 2008 1:08 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
Hi Kellie http://www3.telus.net/public/andnod/emot/wave.gif

Thanks so much for creating the Save DOS forum.
I want everyone to know I took my DOS off the shelf & dusted it off, & installed it & it still works as good as new.
I then carefully put it away so it would be ready for next April Fools Day.

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Click to view Rabbit's profile Member 24 posts since
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2. Apr 1, 2008 8:45 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
With more than 50 years of computer experience (I began with UNIVAC and attended formal schooling on the 1050-II). I own and maintain

ten(10) systems with five of them on a home network. I have several versions of MS-DOS and I know the deepest and darkest secrets

about MS-DOS used in Windows Me and Windows XP (I use XP Professional). Drop me a line and ask me a question related to DOS.

Walter Ivey


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Click to view Number3124's profile Old Hand 1,027 posts since
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3. Apr 1, 2008 9:41 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

The rebellion is on! I'll go get my Vista sucks T-shirt out of the closet.


P.S. Cool t-shirts, I hope I win one.


"If they give you ruled paper write the other way"-dedication of Fahrenheit 451
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Click to view Kilme's profile Member 196 posts since
Feb 12, 2008
4. Apr 1, 2008 11:36 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

Wow, interesting how several DOS topics pop up all in one day. I wonder if it has anything to do with....nah.


I actually grew up using both DOS and Windows 3.1. My grandparents both worked at IBM all their lives, so I was brought up in a very pro-computer enviroment. Their computer ran DOS, and those big old floppies (the ones that actually, you know, flop?). If I wanted to play games, I actually had to enter in commands at a prompt. Although my family's home computer had Windows 3.1 on it, I still had to log out of it, boot into DOS (still can't remember how exactly that worked. It was kind of like GRUB, or dual booting; basically a black screen where I select what OS I want), and enter commands for the game.


I've since lost most of my knowledge with it. I can do cd, dir, fdisk, and basic stuff like that, but that's about it. Also, the whole t-shirt thing is hilarious. If the free shirts aren't jokes as well, I'd love one. Nothing says geek like a shirt that says "Save DOS" on it.


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Click to view Rabbit's profile Member 24 posts since
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5. Apr 1, 2008 12:49 PM in response to: Rabbit
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
MS-DOS is alive and well in Windows XP Professional! In fact, Windows XP comes with it's very own "DOS outside of the Operating System" in the form

of the i386 Directory which can be seen by clicking START and then clicking RUN - type in COMMAND.COM ENTER - and then typing in CD\ ENTER to

access the System ROOT. Type on DIR to see the two separate Directories C:\WINDOWS and C:\i386. Inside of the i386 folder is large file that does not

have a filename extension - a file that Windows loads into Physical Memory (RAM) on start up. The special file contains many of the best-kept secrets

of how Windows and MS-DOS reside on the same Drive. See how many folders there are in C:\WINDOWS\System32 that have the [.] and http://.. icons at

the top of a listing that results from typing on DIR ENTER from a Command Prompt Windows? If you want to know how to find some secrets using a

special MS-DOS Command - drop me a note or post a question to my Avatar.

Walter Ivey


Walter Ivey
Click to view Rabbit's profile Member 24 posts since
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6. Apr 1, 2008 1:40 PM in response to: Kilme
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
I have a Packard Bell 75MHz system running Windows For Workgroups 3.11 that I keep running just like it did when I first took it out of the box.

I have it set up to boot to a DOS Prompt and to get to Windows 3.11, I type in WIN and press ENTER. I still have over 600 5.25-inch 360KB floppy

disks and more than 1100 3.5-inch 1.44GB floppies loaded with all sorts of apps, utility files, and games. I have six (6) CDs from the Software

Vault (Diamond, Emerald, Ruby, etc.) which are Bulletin Board (BBS) feeders. All told, I have somewhere in the neighborhood of 35,000 files

in an archive. The ten (10) computer systems that I keep in a Digital Laboratory of sorts are all up-and-running with a flip of a power strip!

I have Windows 95, 97, 98. 98SE, Me, XP Professional, XP Media, the 3.11 system, an Apple IIc, and two systems running pure MS-DOS where

I work with my archived files. I will celebrate my 77th birthday come June, and I am twice-retired. If you have Windows XP, select a file from

any folder and then open a Command Prompt window and type in (filename) DOS or whatever text string you want to look for. I will

send you a link to where you can see examples of what is hidden in Windows XP Professional. Thanks for the POST and visit me often.

Walter Ivey


Walter Ivey
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7. Apr 1, 2008 1:40 PM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
After having Vista loaded on my computer for a month I think DOS is the way to go! It doesn't mess around. STRAIGHT TO THE POINT! WORD UP YO!
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8. Apr 1, 2008 3:52 PM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
29. Apr 1, 2008 3:31 PM http://forums.pcworld.com/images/up-10x10.gif29. in response to: andyebear Re: Save DOS: The Ultimate Antidote to Vista's Bloat
andyebear - when I built my first IBM CLONE, the only reason there was a 5 1/2 inch floppy was so that I could save what I wrote. Then, I discovered Lotus 1-2-3 & still have all the disks & manuals, but forgot & recycled my old computer!! Agree with you 150% - I LOVED Lotus, Excel still doesn't hold a candle to it. The first word processing program my company used was Easy (still have that floppy, too). The most important thing my computer was used for - preprinting timecards on a dot-matrix printer (IBM, I think) for about 200 people, using a program I wrote in basica.

I was out of the job market when Windows came out & had one heckuva time teaching myself how to use it when I came back to work - & now I'm the IT person!

I finally treated myself to a new car w/an automatic in 2004. Please send me a t-shirt in size XLarge. thanks

Click to view Rabbit's profile Member 24 posts since
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9. Apr 1, 2008 7:27 PM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
Let me say thank you for this exciting forum. And then I want to share something with you. Steve Bass and I are good friends and I

pass a lot of stuff to him. I can best share this with you by providing you with a link http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddgq7v2c_86hks4mtjn

to a Google Document. I am one of the old guys (77 in June) that has been around since computers were big as a room (UNIVAC 60/120 -

and I attended a formal school on the UNIVAC 1050-II). I use Windows XP Professional and I spend about half of my time using MS-DOS

in a Command Prompt window. I have captured a lot of screen snapshots while outside of Windows XP - some that will both entertain

you and amaze you.

Thanks.


Walter Ivey
Click to view Yert's profile Member 256 posts since
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10. Apr 1, 2008 7:48 PM in response to: snorg
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
They aren't fooling! We NEED DOS back!!!
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11. Apr 2, 2008 2:48 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

i still remember when i was 7 or 8 years old, i love playing magic pockets with my uncle, who was a couple of years older than me. lol... :^0


unfortunately, that's about all the memories i have about DOS :(

Click to view retiredoldman's profile New Member 42 posts since
Apr 12, 2007
12. Apr 2, 2008 5:09 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!
Thanks for making me laugh; an old girlfriend was born on April 1st, so after surviving that relationship, I tend to think of EVERYTHING associated with April Fool's Day as nothing but a joke...


I remember that I first used DOS 5.0 in the summer of 1993; I liked the command line. I did NOT like Windows 3.1; it was just a fancy shell for DOS, which made computers slower and less stable... sounds familiar, doesn't it? Nothing much has changed about Microsoft products in the intervening years, which is a disgrace; they're just more bloated and even less stable than they originally were; Gates and his hand-picked hand puppet Ballmer should be horsewhipped for that.


I don't miss DOS; this is an old Win2k box, I also have an XP Pro rig, but my other systems all run GNU/Linux distros, and I really dislike the M$ products. Vista is total junk; bloated to the Nth degree, and bought by people who don't actually know how to use a computer. They'll never know the power of the command line, and how much more productive they could be if they switched to Linux. I only keep my WinBlows rigs because I post advice in several online forums, and I need them so I can duplicate problems, then figure out how to solve them for the Windozers requesting help...


The true innovators are people such as Woz, Stallman,
Metcalfe, Raymond, Berners-Lee, Cailliau, and Torvalds, with an
honorable mention to Jobs. Gates' only "innovations" are based on how
fast he can write a check and co-opt the next advancement in personal
computing. He "innovated" MS-DOS, GUI-based operating systems, Internet
Explorer... the list is long but pathetically undistinguished.


PCLinuxOS, Kubuntu, Puppy, Knoppix, Mint, Xandros... I prefer those OSes over the JUNK Bill Gates has been peddling since he bought QDOS from Seattle Computer Products, back in 1981. Windows is a JOKE, really just a toy "operating system", and Gates has made malware ubiquitous by conning people into using his obnoxious bloatware. In fact, selling Windows to the masses as a desktop OS might well be the greatest prank in the history of the universe, even better than the Save DOS "movement". Gates is nothing more than the richest carny in the world. He should be embarrassed by that, but you can't shame a snakeoil salesman. If Gates thought he could make a NICKEL selling DOS again, it would be available on every street corner next week. He continues to pimp Windows only because he doesn't have all the money in the solar system, YET. Give him time; DOS could still have a future, if Gates can fool the unwashed multitude into believing they "need" it.


Come to think of it, someone should remind Al Gore that it was actually Bill Gates who created the Internet, and on the eighth day, he rested...


As for me, give me Linux, or give me death!

Click to view kcihtred2's profile Member 248 posts since
Sep 7, 2007
13. Apr 2, 2008 6:05 AM in response to: kellie
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

this is an old thing i found that is cool, its some guys Ultimate DOS Gaming Machine!

click here

Click to view Rabbit's profile Member 24 posts since
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14. Apr 2, 2008 7:38 AM in response to: Rabbit
Re: Welcome to the Save DOS forum!

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=ddgq7v2c_86hks4mtjn

Click the above link to read the Google Document that I posted to the Internet showing (verifying) that MS-DOS 5.0

is the Operating System that makes Windows XP Professional hum.

Walter Ivey


Walter Ivey

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