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Apr 4, 2008 5:33 PM

Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

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Click to view rgreen4's profile Old Hand 3,144 posts since
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1. Apr 4, 2008 7:23 PM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

NO!

If Microsoft is consistent in anything with Windows, it's that it will be late. This has been true from the very first version which was promised years ahead of when it was finally released.


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Click to view Yert's profile Member 252 posts since
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2. Apr 5, 2008 6:32 PM in response to: PCWorld
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
I doubt it. Windows 7 was planned three years after Vista, which would be in 2010... at the soonest, late 2009 if your very, very lucky.
Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 348 posts since
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3. Apr 6, 2008 11:16 AM in response to: PCWorld
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
Once XP is gone from distributor channels the sales of PC's will die with any version of Windows on them, unless they still offer downgrade rights. Corporations will buy blank PC's and put an old copy of XP on it, OR M$ biggest fear move to Linux. The latest Ubuntu offering looks good. Vista just does not work well in a corporate environment
Click to view Yert's profile Member 252 posts since
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4. Apr 6, 2008 1:31 PM in response to: RNR19952
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And thus, someone exibits one of the Five Stages of Windows Acceptance...

There is nothing horribly wrong with Vista. Sheesh.
Click to view gt909's profile New Member 1 posts since
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5. Apr 6, 2008 9:45 PM in response to: PCWorld
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
I sometimes wish Microsoft would just drop off the face of the Earth. They keep on breaking things that work or making things that just don't work in the first place. Linux is a far better option than Microsoft windows. At least you can control your computer environment without Windows crashing every day.
Click to view Scunnerous's profile New Member 10 posts since
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6. Apr 7, 2008 5:42 PM in response to: PCWorld
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
In the meantime, Apple stores are jammed with folks who have had it with XP and see nothing in Vista which is an "upgrade".

With all this scurrying & dithering at Microsoft, Apple is licking its chops.
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7. Apr 7, 2008 9:14 PM in response to: PCWorld
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
I used xp and enjoyed it, now I use Vista and have NO problems. I have the new upgrade as well, so far no issues. If you have a well built machine, which you need anyway with all the memory that software and graphics takes up now, you won't have any problems. I enjoy the extra eye candy Vista provides. I have used Windows programs since Win95 and can see and feel all the great improvements since then. If not for companies like Microsoft and Apple always trying to improve their products, then we would have cherished the Edsel. If you don't like the OS, then don't use it. Nobody is breaking your arm to use it.
Click to view rgreen4's profile Old Hand 3,144 posts since
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8. Apr 7, 2008 9:53 PM in response to: RNR19952
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
RNR19952 wrote: Corporations will buy blank PC's and put an old copy of XP on it,
Actually you are partially correct. Corporations buy thousands of PC's. Now I suppose you think they install the software one PC at a time? Get Real!

It's called imaging. At the plant where I work, all 330 PC's connected to the network have the same basic image. It takes one of the IT interns about 30 minutes to check out a PC, load the image off the network onto the PC and it is ready to set on a desktop. It has Windows 2000, Office 2000, the custom written Stores/Maintentance/Purchasing/Accounting software, Lotus Notes and other software, all put on a once. The PC on my desk has an XP sticker on it, but that's not the OS it has. It actually has Windows 2000. If I go to another machine in the plant, I sign on and my settings are downloaded from the network and I can access and do anything from that machine that I can do from my office.

BTW - the company has started rolling out Vista to all 3,000 odd PC's at more than 70 locations along with Office 2007. Office 2007 will be a bigger learning curve than Vista. After all, it's the applications that do the work not the OS. The OS just enables the application to run and interface with the PC and access the I/O functions (discs, network, display, keyboard, mouse, etc).

On a daily basis, in the office environment once you boot up the machine and open the windows to the mainframe, Lotus Notes, Excell you never give the OS a thought because it's in the background. And since corporate machines don't change applictions very often, (we got Office 2000 with Windows 2000) the systems are very stable.

Scunnerous - the Apple stores only seem jammed because they are so small and busy selling iPhones and iPods. Macs are selling so well their market share has increased by a whole percentage point. I'm sure that gives Bill sleepless nights.


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9. Apr 8, 2008 12:25 AM in response to: PCWorld
Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
An Edsel is an Edsel, is an Edsel not matter how you look at it; it's and Edsel.

Gates nis amazing and I'm certain he's excited about a Windows7 as he was with WinME and Vista. Of course you don't want to devulge too much now; because ya got nothing but smoke and mirrors fending off the immense backlash your bully boy tactics garnered you from you'll buy it ...or else (we will sic nag screens, covert code in "Critical Updates'
And, by God if you don't move fast enough we will sic WGA on you!! And we got "Validation" to get ya too; and ACTIVATION ...all in the name of every one priating XP (and only XP, it seems) software. Hum. Funny how m$ doesn't seem to have a prirating problem with Vista. Do you think it was kinda of an idea adopting the intellectual rights of the RIAA? Yahoo Microdew.
Click to view Scunnerous's profile New Member 10 posts since
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10. Apr 8, 2008 3:50 AM in response to: rgreen4
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rgreen4, I see no reason for your little rant against RNR19952. He never said that the OS would be installed any other way than by the deployment of images, as in any largish corporation. There are many people who do more than Word or Excel and the odd canned corporate app, and the roadblocks put up by Vista to make productive use are no recommendation for it - so no, it does not disappear behind the applications for everyone.

As for Apple stores being jammed, I suggest that you try visiting one to see/hear the action - the stories are monotonously the same: "I'm fed-up with XP, I need an upgrade and no way will I consider Vista". Oh and Aplle does have other distribution channels; in fact the stores are just as much a venue to umm, prod the goods as much as anything. Your 1%, BTW, is off by a factor of 3 at last count and if you think that Ballmer doesn't get concerned over market share loss of even 1%, you have no conception of the paranioa which is a daily part of life in Redmond.
Click to view Kilme's profile Member 175 posts since
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11. Apr 8, 2008 5:22 AM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

rgreen4 wrote:
RNR19952 wrote: Corporations will buy blank PC's and put an old copy of XP on it,
Actually you are partially correct. Corporations buy thousands of PC's. Now I suppose you think they install the software one PC at a time? Get Real!

It's called imaging. At the plant where I work, all 330 PC's connected to the network have the same basic image. It takes one of the IT interns about 30 minutes to check out a PC, load the image off the network onto the PC and it is ready to set on a desktop. It has Windows 2000, Office 2000, the custom written Stores/Maintentance/Purchasing/Accounting software, Lotus Notes and other software, all put on a once. The PC on my desk has an XP sticker on it, but that's not the OS it has. It actually has Windows 2000. If I go to another machine in the plant, I sign on and my settings are downloaded from the network and I can access and do anything from that machine that I can do from my office.
That's exactly right. I know that for a fact, because that's basically what my job consists of. All of our new computers come with Vista preinstalled, and I go in and delete it, and image Windows 2000 onto them. We have maybe 4 or 5 Vista PCs around. 2 Engineers that I know of, and 1 Accountant , use Vista just for kicks. We also have 3 Vista PCs in our Systems department right now; one for testing software, in case we ever do switch to Vista (read, whenever corporate makes up their mind), and 2 sitting right next to me that I'm installing updates for that we're going to give to 2 more people. Also, when we retire old PCs, I just load XP on them, and we donate them to local schools.


But on topic, since I'm sure no one cares about my job, I'm glad to hear that Windows 7 may come earlier than expected. I was pondering getting Vista, just to have it, since I can get Vista Business for $25 through my college. I wouldn't really use it as a main OS, but I may play around with it on a spare hard drive. If Windows 7 does come out next year, then I'll definately ignore Vista altogether. But, like said above by many people, I'd put my money on it coming out later than sooner. I hope they take their time too. Hopefully, the more time they spend on it, a more quality OS it will be. I want Windows 7 to be so good, that I'll look back at XP and wonder how I could have ever used such a thing.


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Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 348 posts since
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12. Apr 8, 2008 12:15 PM in response to: rgreen4
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

WOW Imaging! I never heard of that? how does that work?
They would not be able to buy a NEW copy
I guess me and the other 89% of businesses are wrong ...Vista is the greatest thing ever.. ROTFLMAO. Let me know how that rollout goes...If your putting Vista on hardware more than 1 year old..I would love to see that.
Why the Lotus notes and not Exchange?? FYI that settings thing from the network...you mean roaming profile??? "The OS just enables the application to run and interface with the PC and access the I/O functions (discs, network, display, keyboard, mouse, etc)." Is THAT what the OS is for???HMMM....
You have a mainframe?? What year is this?
I think you will soon miss your Windows/Office 2000 when your dealing with headaches instead of getting your job done.

Don't be so silly, Gates is very aware this is WindowsME all over again, otherwise he would not be touting the next version already.

Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 348 posts since
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13. Apr 8, 2008 12:19 PM in response to: Kilme
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?

OYE VEY

I cannot even think on how to reply to you?
Other than I probably have PC's your age? LOL

Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 348 posts since
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14. Apr 8, 2008 1:42 PM in response to: Scunnerous
Re: Will Microsoft Deliver Windows 7 Next Year?
Thanks;)

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