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May 12, 2008 9:30 PM

Elude Your ISP's BitTorrent Blockade

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Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 376 posts since
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1. May 13, 2008 12:09 PM in response to: PCWorld
Elude Your ISP's BitTorrent Blockade
I just love how corporations lie, don't you?
Makes me wonder who is the biggest liars, Corporations, Governments, or do most people just lie and then say they misspoke....I guess they were under fire too...Is misspoke even a word?
If you pay for unlimited service that's what you should get.
NERO uses Bit Torrent to disperse its program
Click to view rtfire1's profile Member 435 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
2. May 13, 2008 1:10 PM in response to: PCWorld
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with all free and paid for down loads that use BitTorrent thats kinda crazy but it make think about how big a lawsuit could happen where isps are saying that they don't do something.
Click to view ReklaKazala's profile New Member 1 posts since
May 14, 2008
3. May 14, 2008 5:23 AM in response to: PCWorld
Elude Your ISP's BitTorrent Blockade
Road Builders are responseable for drivers who drive to fast? Isn't it police work? Road Builders are responseable for drivers who kill anyone while driving drunk? Isn't it police work? ISP:s are responseable for customers what customers are downloading? When did ISP:s get the status of police enforcement? ISP provide a service and nothing else and if my ISP get me throtled in any protocol or use, without any legal notice well I sued them really bad. Sorry for my attitude but I just get really upset when ever I read about such junk as this. PC World should be on customers side not on ISP or Warner, Sony or any other company that gets around fundamental rights thanks to big bucks. Or are PC World also on they payroll? Why am i saying this? Well instead of educating your paying customers how to get around ISP that is blocking torrents why don't you look, what rights ISP have to do that. And not only by ISP company rule but, rather on constitutionaly rights for free information.
Click to view zeth006's profile New Member 41 posts since
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4. May 14, 2008 6:16 AM in response to: RNR19952
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I think bad apples exist everywhere. No major organization is bereft of its ill-intentioned.


Now back to the topic, I'm not surprised. BBC news has also been reporting on bittorent disruption software. It first started with trying to troll torrent sites and filing lawsuits against their admins. Now it's also taking place with ISPs.


Darn corporates have always been and always will be much into public relations. They'll always say what goes contrary to what they do for the sake of saving face. If a mildly curious pcworld journalist inquires into bad practices, changes are made so that no one loses image. Typical.

Click to view redofromstart's profile New Member 7 posts since
Aug 2, 2007
5. May 14, 2008 7:47 AM in response to: PCWorld
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Nice try at the ol' strawman game, Mr. Spring, but the issue isn't whether BitTorrent users are downloading copyrighted content -- it's their impact on the overall network and all the users who aren't greedy infantile narcissists. You don't care who suffers as long as you get your fix, do you, Mr. Spring?
Click to view rtfire1's profile Member 435 posts since
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6. May 14, 2008 7:58 AM in response to: redofromstart
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the issue is people that are paying for legit service are getting screewed I pay for a fast up and down speed. I use it for watching tv i pay for and downloading shareware or files I paid for with my money. for them not to let me do something I am paying for is bull poop.
Click to view blackcross's profile New Member 22 posts since
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7. May 14, 2008 12:17 PM in response to: PCWorld
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Bandwidth cap: exceed it, pay a published rate per MB. best solution. people want lots of HD movies? they can pay for it. It's like buying minutes in the cel world (and yes before all you attack nutters jump, it's only similar, not exact). ISPs want business models to balance equipment costs? users pay for it. But let's be clear about what is being bought and sold. No clarity, shame on everyone.

Pay for unlimited access, you better be geting unlimited access. Anything else is a violation of your contract: contact the BBB and your lawyer.

If you let your ISP implement the law (by assuming you are using your internet connection for illegal use), then you can take them to court. Do it or change your ISP. At least ISPs are no longer saying it's because users are unfairly taking bandwidth. That's a load of "misdirection".

Click to view elver's profile New Member 2 posts since
May 14, 2008
8. May 14, 2008 3:32 PM in response to: PCWorld
Elude Your ISP's BitTorrent Blockade
The writer of this article has hit the nail on the head right here. The hook drew my in because I too have been shut down by RoadRunner, and lied to by their tech support. Mr Spring obviously is a problem solver because after reading his article I am confident that I will be able to outwit the halfwits at roadrunner who are ripping me off. Also this article has encouraged me to educate myself further on this matter. Sites like "Torrent Freak" show step by step how to instal "Putty" wich changes the ports you use to a port that your ISP isnt on the lookout for. You gotta love the folks at PC World...Always looking out for injustice by "The Man". Peace cyber bros.
Click to view elver's profile New Member 2 posts since
May 14, 2008
9. May 14, 2008 3:45 PM in response to: redofromstart
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Unlimited access is unlimited access. Period. Maybee you side with the ISP's because you are one of them.
Click to view RNR19952's profile Member 376 posts since
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10. May 15, 2008 4:41 AM in response to: PCWorld
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All download programs are adjustable for the bandwidth
I will bet this was more about the pressure from the media mafia than about bandwidth. Don't be fooled. And isn't interfering with communications over a network a FELONY? Or does the law only apply to non millionaires? I think the latter, just from how I see justice served on the news...
Click to view rtfire1's profile Member 435 posts since
Jan 24, 2008
11. May 15, 2008 5:36 AM in response to: RNR19952
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I called charter last night they told me they don't do that. I said how come when I change my incoming ports it works for a few days?? I can't belive they hung up on me.
Click to view Freedom4ALL's profile New Member 1 posts since
May 19, 2008
12. May 19, 2008 7:28 AM in response to: PCWorld
Elude Your ISP's BitTorrent Blockade
Uhm, if it is true, and in my humble opinion it must be, then does that not mean they are breaking the rules they made up them selves? It sounds to me as CENSURSHIP in a big way. I am from Europe and reading about this apalles me big time. Sounds like they are doing what is done in the East and we live in a FREE World, at least that is what I thought. IF they do indeed PLAY us consumers it needs to be adressed and LAWS need to be changed. I am going to see what that 'putty' is and might use it as I had a feeling someting was going on, BTW we use Time Warner / RR or Road Runner. Its all POOR in compherensis with what I am used to in Europe, bandwith is TINNY and not Guaranteed at all. In Europe people keep getting FASTER and wider broadband for same or even LESS Fee and overhere they are going to RESTRICT it? GEE an other step BACKWARDS and USA was number one in lots of technical things tssssssssssss go figure...:(
Click to view mcbarker's profile Member 697 posts since
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13. May 19, 2008 8:55 AM in response to: PCWorld
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If you are paying for a 10Mbps download speed, you should get a 10Mbps download speed no matter what programs you use. If your ISP wants to slow down your service because you're using BitTorrent (or any other P2P network), it should be stated up front in the ISP's Terms of Service (TOS), otherwise, it seems to me that they are ignoring their own TOS, and are essentially breaking the law by fraudulently and deliberately slowing down your service. Wouldn't it be better for them to be up-front about this instead of this cloak and dagger crap that they hide behind, lying to customers? If their TOS clearly stated that P2P networking programs would be subject to slower upload and download speeds, or that there would be extra charges for users who upload and/or download more than X GB of data in any given month, then customers who use these services would either have to agree to the ISP's TOS, or find an ISP which doesn't regulate the amount of bandwidth that they use. I personally don't use BitTorrent (or any other P2P network), but I do feel strongly that ISPs need to be honest with their customers instead of cloaking their poor service in a copyright issue.


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14. May 19, 2008 4:21 PM in response to: PCWorld
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Why I think that the RIAA and Hollywood are part of the problem, I think the real issue is infrastructure. Comcast, RR, Verzion, AT&T and the other ISP's don't want to pay to update the bandwidth capacities of their networks, they wanna make the money and not spend it.

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