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Jun 26, 2008 10:52 AM

Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

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BKA4U2C

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Jul 24, 2007

1. Jun 27, 2008 4:54 AM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

I think I remember reading an article here about switching to Vista to get a jump on the next Windows release. Which is pretty much what Microsoft is saying here. Basically, if you've worked out all of your compatibilities with Vista, switching to Windows 7 "should" go smoothly.

Problem is some people aren't going to switch to Vista and we'll get the same crap argument over again, especially since it will use the same kernel as Vista and Server 2008. I can see it now, "I'm not updating my hardware just to run Windows 7" "DirectX 11 is not worth upgrading to Windows 7", "It's bloated and uses too much memroy" blah, blah, blah.

I also don't expect to see it released in January 2010. I would say somewhere around the end of 2010 of early 2011. Because if they rush a unfinished product out the door, they'll get even more backlash for Windows 7 than they got for Vista. Good luck!

shanedr

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Mar 22, 2007

2. Jun 26, 2008 2:10 PM

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Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

The only thing you can count on about a Windows shipping date is that it will be at least one year later.

rgeiken

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3. Jun 26, 2008 2:24 PM

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Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

I wouldn't be interested in incorporating it until January 2011 anyhow. Better to wait from 6 months to a year after initial release in order to have a chance of getting a more stable O/S. I bought a new computer in August of 2007, more than 6 months after the consumer release of Vista. In the early months, it was not nearly as stable as it is today, June 2008. Right now, I rarely have a system freeze, although I did today. Can't remember the last one. First try to reboot failed, but the second boot seemed to work just fine, and am up and running right now. I think that most of the bad press right now comes from people that are not running Vista, or someone that has a low powered new computer, or someone who has installed it in place of XP. If you really want Vista, opt for a quad processor and 4 gig of ram, and you will probably be well pleased. Also plan on disabling UAC, and all references to it in the O/S. UAC along with WGA probably will turn out to be the things that sink Vista.

zeth006

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Mar 21, 2008

4. Jun 27, 2008 4:00 AM

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Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

Rgeiken, you don't need 4gb of RAM and a quad-core! For crying out loud, my dual-core 2.5gb RAM works just fine! No worries here.

I think the general opinion is that we should view any initial release of Windows 7 with caution. Personally by then, my desktop will be running the 64-bit version of Windows Vista and my current laptop will still be on Vista Home Basic. If Windows 7 promises increased performance and an even more user-friendly UI, then I might be tempted to switch over. I'll wait and see.

raife1

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Nov 5, 2007

5. Jun 27, 2008 8:28 PM

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Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

First, Ill believe that Microsoft will ship a, truly, finished OS, on schedule... when I see it, not before (Microsofts history is really against this).

Second, Microsoft is, basically, actually claiming that "Windows 7", will be mostly compatible with "Vista". This is hardly surprising since "Windows 7" is apparently mostly based on the "Vista" core. But, that type of "compatibility"... is hardly an issue, given, "Vistas" current acceptance, and "compatibility".

In short, in my opinion, this is little more than, even more, marketing-hype, and an attempt to ignore (and push-past) the realities of "Vistas" (and Microsofts) current problems.

forensiccns

3 posts since
Feb 11, 2008

6. Jun 30, 2008 12:13 PM

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Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

I for one am very happy with Vista. I bought it the first day that it came on the open market and installed it as soon as possible. Since that time I have had only 2 BSODs and they were related to some new software I hade installed. If this new OS is as capable and stable as Vista I will be happy to buy and install it on the next computer that I build with no compunction!

bikerbob2005

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Jul 3, 2008

7. Jul 3, 2008 5:33 AM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

long time ago i setup a computer for my mother ,a micro Hp plll win 98se.at a family get togther i took a few to update the system.

Went to defrag the hard drive the window told me it had not been defraged in 1180 days .will MS win 7 offer me that same stalibity?

my Win Xp sp3 has not held stable for 6 months with out serious crash most resulting in full restore .

Clothahump

1 posts since
Jul 3, 2008

8. Jul 3, 2008 6:22 AM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

Big whoop.

Microsoft has simply continued its normal business operations: hose their users. As soon as XP got anywhere near stable, they released Vista and pounded it down our throats. And Vista is garbage. I had to buy a new laptop recently, and couldn't get it with XP, only with Vista. Absolutely miserable.

And yet they expect us to dance in the streets because Windows 7 is coming out. I swear, Linux is looking better and better and better.....

chori

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Jul 3, 2008

9. Jul 3, 2008 7:47 AM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

Think Linux, why bother waiting for the last sp for Windows vista or XP or in the future Windows 7. You waste your money, your time, your energy, and so on and so on.

I was a Windows user because I didn't know any better, a big mistake from me, switching to Linux Ubuntu was the greatest thing for me, I even bought a cheaper laptop with greater characteristics because it doesn't have Windows as a native OS.

And if you don't like Linux, switch to Leopard, you won't waste money in anti virus and sure don't be target of one.

Windows Vista is one of the most disappointing OS that Windows had launched, once I try to understand it and after half an hour I couldn't check the ip address or turn it off... Why do you all think that downgrading is the greatest option.

shadow101

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Nov 29, 2006

10. Jul 3, 2008 1:09 PM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

I'll stay with XP and wait for Windows 7. Vista pass.

zachman1094

19 posts since
Apr 2, 2008

11. Jul 3, 2008 3:24 PM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

I don't think Windows 7 will come out at the realese date.

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tkseng

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Mar 11, 2007

12. Jul 5, 2008 11:26 AM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

The only reason why Microsoft pushes new software and totally obliterate the old ones is because they are after all, a profit organization. As a profit organization, their goal is to make profit out of miserable consumers like you and me. As consumers, we all need to change. We are too reliant on Microsoft products. This is akin to too reliant to gas for cars. However, unlike gas as alternative approach to power up cars are not as good as gas, other operating systems like linux are as good as Windows.

One of the main problems with Microsoft is a total radical change in the way its operating system works. I have no idea why they want to do this. They have even incorporate a total interface change to its Office products as well. functionality-wise, I applaud them as they are innovative.

But the biggest disaster is that people are required to re-learn new products and total productivity among people who need to re-learn new things will not be good for their own organization. Imagine Microsoft's approach to come out with new operating system every 3 years. This makes it that consumers need to re-learn their products every 3 years! However, if all consumers change their habit and ways to use Linux operating system, they can be assured that the interface would not be too much of a difference and they can focus on more productive work. Now, if you take into account of the time wasted in re-learning between Microsoft and Linux products, you only need to learn once in using Linux products and you won't need to re-learn a whole bunch of nonsence like "where is my Control Panel I used to know where it is?" Not only Microsoft had a radical change on the interface of its operating system but they also changes some of the program names too. What makes matter worse is the Office interface also changes into what they called "ribbon" approach.

To all serious productive consumers out there, it would be wise to totally adopt to Linux operating system as this will alleviate your frustration. Not to mention your corporations will love you because you know how to use a freeware software which will cost them nothing. Free software to all...use them! You can do without payments!

Ambleside

1 posts since
Mar 14, 2008

13. Jul 10, 2008 8:05 PM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

Whenever the release date is, target January 2010, don't forget that any new model, be it operating systems, automobiles, appliances or whatever, .there has never been a new model of anything first released that didn't have bugs or problems with them. . . so just realize that new products have to be fixed. . .that's the "BUG LAW OF NEW PRODUCTS." If the January 2010 release date is pushed to June 2010 or even as someone suggested January 2010, perhaps the BUG LAW won't be as strong had it been released earlier.

Idashur

3 posts since
Dec 9, 2007

14. Jul 14, 2008 11:31 PM

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Re: Microsoft VP Confirms Windows 7 Ship Date: January 2010

That's too bad; I thought it was going to ship on July 2009, or slightly later. Oh well...looks like we still have to keep up with all the Vista critics and praises for another year and a half or so...

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