Sure. But which of the phones have a replaceable battery and/or the option for a stronger battery. With my Treo, I could opt for a stronger battery and take a spare when I traveled. I love my iPhone and (now) iPhone 3G. I'll just have to keep a portable charger in my bag.

We can only hope that Steve Jobs is using an iPhone 3G as his personal cell phone; that's our best chance of seeing a replaceable battery in next round of iPhones.

The complete ommision of blackberrys make the conclusion that the 3G iPhone is better than all it's rivals entirely invalid and unproven.

I will be happy to include battery life for a 3G BlackBerry when we get one. The Bold isn't out yet.

Yardena Arar, Senior Editor

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Yardena Arar Senior Editor, PC World

"The good news for AT&T and other HSDPA/UMTS customers is that they can make voice calls while using their phones for data (that is, tasks such as browsing the Web or reading e-mail); Sprint and Verizon users cannot simultaneously do both."

You would be wrong...I have an LG Voyager from Verizon, and can indeed make & receive voice calls while connected to the 3G network.

I can maybe understand leaving off the battery-friendly Nokias since there's simply not that many of them here in the US. But how in the world can you justify leaving off the EVDO Blackberries? You can't throw a rock around here without hitting somebody on Verizon with a Pearl (which is very much aimed at a similar audience as the iPhone.)

The way you have the graph cropped is also more than a little misleading. You'd think the iPhone gets 3x the battery life of the Treo judging by the chart (as many people will do.) I understand going for a headline while it's popular, but leaving off one of the most popular smartphone brands on the market (from the biggest US network) and then making a 40% gap from worst-to-'first' appear like a 200% gap is a little disingenuous. I'd expect something like that from Engadget, but not PC World.

For all my complaints, it's still nice to see the numbers for several of these phones in one spot. I would also be curious to see how the LG Dare fares here as I got to tinker with one of those this weekend. It lacks true smartphone capabilities, but for somebody just wanting a nice feature phone for email, texting, music, browsing and turn-by-turn GPS it was actually pretty nice.

I find it funny that you found it convenient to leave out the ENV2, the Dare, the Voyager, and the HTC Diamond... all of them have significantly better battery times than the iPhone 3g. PC Mag and CNet both recently reviewed the Dare and both confirmed over 8 hours of talk time on it.

I find your research and objectivity to be in question.

How exactly is an EV-DO blackberry not 3G???