I agree with you 100%. Apple can NOT claim that the iPhone provides great web experience without Flash. Steve Job's arrogant position against Flash is shameful. I for one refuse to upgrade to the 3G iPhone without Flash. I feel cheated by Apple!!!

Perhaps PC World should add a caveat to the commentary/rant on Flash on the iPhone/iPod Touch to mention that they have a financial interest in having Flash advertisements running on all platforms visiting their site?

Journalistic credibility ... u can haz some!

Who wants Flash on an iPhone? I don't.

Other than video, 95% of Flash content is banner advertising. I don't want Flash ads in my Safari browser, eating up CPU and battery.

That rare real Flash app? No thanks. The whole purpose of Flash is to be platform-neutral. But what makes the iPhone so great is that all its apps are built specifically for it, taking full advantage of the accelerometers, multi-touch, input gestures, graphics hardware etc. Existing Flash apps will be hard to use on an iPhone, and Flash apps designed specifically for the iPhone will always be poor cousins to their native counterparts.

Which leaves video. For video, I would rather have a native app designed to play Flash FLV video files than a general purpose Flash player. The YouTube app is a good example.

For those of you who dislike Flash so much, simply DO NOT INSTALL IT ON YOUR iPHONES, you have this choice. But do NOT deny the rest of us, who want Flash on their iPhones, the choice to have it.

I have no doubt that there will be a VERY inteligent response from one of the Apple/Steve Jobs loyalists to the effect "If you don't like the iPhone, do not buy it". None of us who bougt the original iPhone knew that it did not have Flash on it. Now we know!

I'd rather have the ability to send/receive text images on my iPhone (without having to go sign in to a web site) than have Flash.

Flash will just create headaches and cause more support issues for Apple. Adobe will pass the buck and blame any and all Flash inefficiencies on Apple.

It just unnecessary. To much bloat which means its a resource hog...... and..

srijon is right....... most flash will be obtrusive to the user experience.

There are better solutions than Flash for iPhone.

Flash is old school mentality.

It amazes me how outside voices always claim to know whats best for Apple.

iJah420 says... MuntherKubba is right..... If you don't like it find something else that installs Flash but please people Apple knows what best for Apple in the long run and @ this point Flash is a wait and see...(Android).......Apple ain't stupid they are watching this thing close.....but so far the reviews are less than promising on a large scale acceptance.

What I think Apple/AT&T fear here is people will just make free Flash websites for the iPhone providing iPhone applets that they would otherwise have to buy through Apple/AT&T channels, hence giving Apple/AT&T their BIG cut and finally 'trickling down' the microscopic cut to the developers.

No need for a native API, and OMG! Another phone that provides Flash with a similar screen size and touch screen is suddenly 100% compatible with all of that content.

Flash is being embedded as a cellular application platform in and of its self, and Apple doesn't seem to believe that they can withstand the 'competition'.

BTW, on a related U.S. holiday note, the Pilgrims had perfect religious freedom in Holland. The problem was, so did everyone else. They went to America because they feared if they stayed, they'd just become Dutch.

Likewise, if Apple supports Flash, they fear their iPod will just be another Flash-compatible platform. I certainly wouldn't give Apple's absurd iPhone API a second look if I could just make a Flash applet for it. Of course, after downloading and perusing the examples, I never gave Apple's absurd little API a second look, anyway.