Hi Jeff,

I took the liberty of copying and pasting this paragraph:

"The biggest losers here are the major security software developers, including McAfee; Symantec, maker of the Norton line; and Trend Micro. For years they've run a profitable business selling antimalware programs to consumers, but now that market is essentially dead. Good riddance, I say. These programs were resource hogs-each year getting bigger, slower, more bloated, and adding system utilities and other add-ons that had nothing to do with security. (To be fair, some of these tools, such as Norton Antivirus, have slimmed down recently.)"

I agree with you on the second part of this paragraph. I have Trend Micro AV and it really is a resource hog, it takes forever to load up and slows everything down.

Needless to say, I won't be upgrading next year when my subscription is up. As a matter of fact, I'm looking for another security app to replace TMAV.

So uh, I guess these anti-viri manufacturers will move to the completely insecure Linux and MAC market now eh?

No, wait a sec . . . ; )

Just what we need, 2 more failed companies.

i knew it. As soon as an article comes out saying MS is going to provide for free software we have to buy from someone else, someone was going to whine like a lil bitch about. First off I like Norton, and if what MS comes out with isn't as good I won't be switching. I have used OneCare and I didn't like it. ButI haven't bought Norton since 2003 because I can get it at work. But even when I paid it use to be good. I agree it is way to bloated now and adds crap you dont need and uninstalling it is a task all its own. Only the corp version which i use is truly slim. I don't think MS is doing this to undermine Symantec. S has been good partners with them for years. THey will still be around. There are lots of free antiviurus progs out there and they havent bit into Norton hold in that market and I doubt MS will either. But as soon as Free is associated with Microsoft here comes the whiners. Do you all get paid for your whining? Bec if not , STOP. its stupid. Many of Windows features that it provides free aways place compared to 3rd party offering accept IE. IE was better than Netscape PERIOD. Windows Media Player is good, but MusicMatch was better and maybe even RealPlayer at first. Anything is better than QT. Nero is better than Windows native CD/DVD buring software which Windows only can burn up to 2GB on a DVD. A built in alternative is good for dumba$$ users liek one I met who said she didnt know you were suppose to update teh subscription with Norton that came on her pc. I asked her what about teh box thats pops up? she said she never read it and it was annoying and she would just close it. Everything ppl bitch about and MS trys to fix you bitch more. Ppl complained about not being warned about things happening on the pc. S makes UAC and everyone bitches its to annoying now they are changing it again. its not MS 's job to kiss ur a$$ everytime, they ahve a right ake Windows better. You all bitch about security and now they are making a move to fix and look what you do. Why not crawl into a hole and dont come out.

Well lets compare, one care, bloated junk software, win defender, more bloated junk software, silver light, more bloated junk software. Maybe MS should practice on what they still are not very good at, building software. One should not have to spend a couple hundred for software, only to have to buy another 100 dollars worth to protect it. Alas this is the real world. One care was junk when it came out, and will be junk when they retire it. If they start giving it away, it will be even worse, if that is possible. Bill is in business to make money, he won't put a extra dime of effort into one care for free. One does not build security suites in a day. Mcafee, Norton, ZoneAlarm, and the other security companies have been in this business for years BECAUSE THEY WORK. I will put my money in GOOD protection, I don't have time to fight a computer to make it work. Free is just another word for you get what you pay for. MS can't even get windows to run correctly, how would ANYONE expect them to build a world class security suite? The biggist threat to the computer world is the casual user who has no clue that trolling porn sites and loading dangerous software can contaminate a computer. The info to protect their computers is out on the net, they are to stupid to look for it. I clean computers for people once, I recommend software to protect their machine, I will even load it for them, if they don't know how to update it, they are back in a month wanting me to spend 8 hours doing their cleanup again. Sorry, they were warned.

When has Microsoft EVER built something that was not bloated? I'll believe it when I see it.

Something will have to give - if it were possible to build a low-demand and highly effective security program, the security experts (Norton, McAfee, Trend Micro) would have done it by now. Either the new prog. it will be bloated and slow like the rest, or have a reduced effectiveness. In either case, I think the reports of the death of the other security companies are a bit premature.

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